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Drain 1 might need to be lower. The goal is to have it at full siphon. You have it higher so what probably happens is it'll start and then lose siphon.Bump.
Okay thanks fishy. I’ll mess with shortening that stand pipeDrain 1 might need to be lower. The goal is to have it at full siphon. You have it higher so what probably happens is it'll start and then lose siphon.
Well bad news previous owner glued that pipe down from what I can might have any other suggestions ? Looks like everything is stuck together.Drain 1 might need to be lower. The goal is to have it at full siphon. You have it higher so what probably happens is it'll start and then lose siphon.
This is set up as a Durso, with an emergency drain. The drain should not be a full siphon in it's current configuration.Drain 1 might need to be lower. The goal is to have it at full siphon. You have it higher so what probably happens is it'll start and then lose siphon.
durso with an emergency drain becomes a herbie, at which point the lower drain becomes full syphonThis is set up as a Durso, with an emergency drain. The drain should not be a full siphon in it's current configuration.
Incorrect. A Durso still has a fresh intake at the top of the candy cane, which only turns it into a full siphon when the water gets up over the false air hole.durso with an emergency drain becomes a herbie, at which point the lower drain becomes full syphon
I'd take a pair of channel locks or vice grips and attempt to turn the pipe in place. I have never seen someone, no matter how fresh, glue in the overflow side of the plumbing. That would be lunacy and pointless.Well bad news previous owner glued that pipe down from what I can might have any other suggestions ? Looks like everything is stuck together.
My understanding of it was that as long as one was running significantly lower than the e-drain, and at full siphon, it was considered a herbie. At which point candy cane did not matter because it was, in the end, full siphonIncorrect. A Durso still has a fresh intake at the top of the candy cane, which only turns it into a full siphon when the water gets up over the false air hole.
A Durso is not a normal full siphon system.
A Herbie is.
Adding an e drain to a Durso stand pipe makes it a Durso, with an e drain.
Look at the plumbing. It has a Durso air line coming out of the top. Unless that air line is under water, it will not be a full siphon . That part is made to leak air into the candy cane and keep it from a full siphon until the water level gets too high. This is a built-in emergency drain of its own. Instead of giving water a secondary path, It increases the flow dramatically from static to a drawn siphon.My understanding of it was that as long as one was running significantly lower than the e-drain, and at full siphon, it was considered a herbie. At which point candy cane did not matter because it was, in the end, full siphon
It is weird as the benefits of the herbie and a durso standpipe are both gone with this configurationThat's kind of a strange way to set up an overflow. What I would do is to change that system to more of a Herbie.
To me, the easiest way to do that would be to remove that tubing and change out the plug on top to a new one without a hole. Then add a gate valve to the main drain line.
Can you unthread the plug on top of the main drain?
Not a huge deal to re do it I’m going to do something this weekendDo a google search for Herbie drains.
If everything has been glued you may need to completely start over, even with new bulkheads if the stand pipes are glue to it. Doesn't look like there is enough room to get a tool in the overflow box to cut the pipe
Haven’t tried but I will give it a goThat's kind of a strange way to set up an overflow. What I would do is to change that system to more of a Herbie.
To me, the easiest way to do that would be to remove that tubing and change out the plug on top to a new one without a hole. Then add a gate valve to the main drain line.
Can you unthread the plug on top of the main drain?
If it is glued in, you'll need to remove it and the bulkhead and replace. Making a Herbie is easy. There are a bunch of how to's.Not a huge deal to re do it I’m going to do something this weekend