Stocking Suggestion

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  1. msujohn

    msujohn Active Member

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    I have a 90 gallon reef that has been set up for about 3 years. I have the following fish in it currently:

    • 2 Picasso Clowns
    • Midas Blenny
    • Kole Yellow Eye Tang
    • 3 Pajama Cardinal fish
    • Melanurus Wrasse
    • Dwarf Flame Angel
    All of these fish have been in the tank for at least 1 year. I have tried about 1 year ago to add additional wrasses (Lubbock & Carpenters Flasher) and an Orchard Dottyback.

    When I added the wrasses, I did use an acclimation box. But after several days/weeks - the Melanurus would not stop picking on them - so I had to take them out.

    The Orchard Dottyback was just too timid for the tank and would hide all the time.

    I would like to add 2 more fish, but really concerned with what I could add? Do I have to add some more aggressive fish (i.e. Purple dottyback, Yellow tail damsel, etc)?
    I've considered a longnose Hawkfish as well - but I do have shrimp in the tank (cleaner, peppermint).

    If I added those 2 fish (Damsel/Dottyback), would they end up being too aggressive for the tank? What are some other options that I can consider?
    Do you think I could add the hawkfish, or would it eat the shrimp in the tank?
     
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    I'm not seeing a bottom dwelling fish, maybe a blenny of some kind? Starry Blenny possibly? Will perch on rock mostly, not be a free swimmer, however will be bulky enough and defend itself again any competitive fish.

    I know they feed on the same as Tangs.
     
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    I have a midas blenny already and didn't think I could add another blenny? I'd worry adding another algae eater to the tank might be a little much.
     
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    A larger anthias species, such as bimaculatus or pink square.

    A group of zebra or scissortail dartfish.

    Chrysipta damsel species are well behaved. I like tricincta and kupangs.
     
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    Is the Kupang - an Azure? If I add it, should I add more than 1? Could I also do a Purple Dottyback with it or no? I always thought that dartfish would be too timid.
     
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    Some dartfish can be timid, but both of those are pretty bold.

    Yes kupang and azures are the same. You can do a few.

    I find purple dottybacks can be more aggressive than they are worth.
     
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    What would be a good bottom dwelling fish that won’t get lost in the tank?

    Is a royal gramma less aggressive than a purple DottyBack?
     
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    Good bottom dwelling fish for that size tank include:
    Red sand perch
    Diamond goby
    Engineer goby

    Royal grammas are significantly less aggressive than purple dottybacks.
     
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    So I’m thinking about the following,
    • Azure damsel
    • Talbots damsel
    • Royal gramma
    Would adding these be ok? Is the gramma more aggressive than an orchard dottyback? Should I add only 1 of each or a pair?
     
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    Those would be ok. Royal grammas are similar in aggression to orchid dottybacks.

    I wouldn't do pairs of those fish. It would either be 1 specimen per species or a few specimens per species.
     
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    I am also considering a mandarin. How do I know if my pod population is sufficient to support one? I don’t seem to see any? Just wondering if they are so small and I wouldn’t see them or not.
     
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    You should be stocking pods for at least a year and it will be tough to keep one with a melanurus wrasse (since they regularly search the rocks hunting pods). Personally I wouldn't recommend one with your current stock.
     
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    If you used live rock pods will reproduce on their own without them being supplemented. Just give the population 6-12months to establish. Also give 50g per pod eating fish in order to keep a mandarin. Halichoeres and leopard wrasses count as pod eaters even though they readily take food.
     
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    I don’t have any Cheato in my sump either. But, I do have a 8x4x4 marine block in there. Will they be able to reproduce in it? With the tank being 3 years old, I would have thought I would already have pods.
     
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    You don't need chaeto to have pods. At 3yrs old you definitely have pods. They're tiny but can still be seen with the naked eye.
     
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