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I love astronomy and viewing the Sun is a big part of the experience. Our Sun is studied by several satellites 24 hours a day for both the research to understand the dynamics of our star, and to be able to warn Earth based technologies of solar storms, their intensities, and their affect on our electronics.

This link shows a video of an intense solar flare that luckily was not aimed at the Earth when it erupted.....
NASA - Multimedia - Video Gallery

Our Sun has been in a deep solar minimum for quite some times and our solar activity has been weak for the last 2 decades, however we are approaching a solar maximum that will peak by 2013 according to NASA models. The increased solar storm activity is really scary when you figure in the effects of what could happen according to this report.........
As the Sun Awakens, NASA Keeps a Wary Eye on Space Weather - NASA Science

In interviews with NASA Director Dick Fischer, he claimed that "We know it is coming but we don’t know how bad it is going to be,†Dr Richard Fisher, the director of Nasa's Heliophysics division, said in an interview with The Daily Telegraph.

“It will disrupt communication devices such as satellites and car navigations, air travel, the banking system, our computers, everything that is electronic. It will cause major problems for the world.

“Large areas will be without electricity power and to repair that damage will be hard as that takes time.â€

Dr Fisher added: “Systems will just not work. The flares change the magnetic field on the earth that is rapid and like a lightning bolt. That is the solar affect.â€

He explained further in an article in Sky and Telescope Magazine that in 1859 the Earth experienced a large solar flare that was witnessed by observers and subsequently all telegraphs were disrupted for 3-7 days later. This affected the business of the day, communications, and train travel.......
On September 1–2, 1859, the largest recorded geomagnetic storm occurred. Aurorae were seen around the world, most notably over the Caribbean; also noteworthy were those over the Rocky Mountains that were so bright that their glow awoke gold miners, who began preparing breakfast because they thought it was morning.

Telegraph systems all over Europe and North America failed in some cases even shocking telegraph operators. Telegraph pylons threw sparks and telegraph paper spontaneously caught fire. Some telegraph systems appeared to continue to send and receive messages despite having been disconnected from their power supplies.


Our electrical grids across the world use EHV transformers......
http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/2009/metatech2009.pdf

So, if we were to have a strong solar storm that could push the Aurora as far south as Cuba we would stand a strong chance of losing power throughout the Midwest and East coast that could last for months or even up to a year before power is restored!!! The reason is the time it would take to make repairs to the system.

With all that said, I am wondering? "what would you do for you and your family if you were without power for up to a year?"

I also want to know if you have a back up plan for short term power outages?
I have access to a generator if needed. Do you?

Please respond as I am very curious as to what people would do with out power for a year. I mean without power you would not have sewer, gas, electric, or running water. No refrigeration or cooling, and no heating for that matter. What would your survival plan be?

~Rich
 
With all that said, I am wondering? "what would you do for you and your family if you were without power for up to a year?"





I would move to the west coast!!!!! Lol... Interesting articles and Theroy none the less...
 
Very interesting!

For me I think Hank Jr said it best, "A country boy can survive!" I would loose my reef though...

As for Generators, it takes electricity to pump the fuel sooooo...... I bet there would be fuel but it would be so expensive.
 
Well I would be in trouble, I think I would move to the west coast also, or to flordia so my fish could at least go to the ocean...... gas=problem. I have a generator though shoudl anything happen for now. ....
 
I wish I had never read this...now I am already worrying about my reef.

I should probably go out and have a kid so that I dont have to love this thing so much. :(
 
I think that what we would also have to worry about is what everyone else would do. It would certainly change life as we know it. There have been plenty of doomsday movies so we all have a pretty good idea of what other people are willing to do to survive and the question would be are we able to do the same to survive. I didn't enjoy being with out power for the 9 days after Katrina but still had access to food & water. what would have happened when they ran out? altho we have plenty of land to farm it would be impossible to get anything started quick enough especially in Aug. Frankly I'd probably only last as long as available food lasted or until someone killed me trying to get what I had.
 
Very interesting!

For me I think Hank Jr said it best, "A country boy can survive!" .

My sentiments EXACTLY! I know how to plant a garden and grow food. There are plenty of game animals around here also and I keep PLENTY of ammunition! Trees=wood=fire! Might take some getting used to but I don't think it would be that bad......
 
So I am wondering if this will affect only electronis that are on when the flare hits? Or will it affect them all regardless? Just wondering whatr people thoughts were on this. Also I guess I should invest in a silencer and sniper rifle with lots of ammo for protection.
 
After Katrina, I was without power for several weeks, around six i think. Biloxi was a very peaceful calm environment without power, and the night sky was beautiful (I probably would see twenty shooting stars a night). I'm prepared enough to survive a power outage here in starkville, and I would enjoy the peace and serenity brought on by the power outage...but I'm telling you from experience, long power outages really bring out the ugly in a community i.e. Robberies, theft, a guy even killed his sister over a bag of ice in Gulfport after Katrina...so be prepared to defend your family of something like that really happened.
 
Very interesting!

For me I think Hank Jr said it best, "A country boy can survive!" I would loose my reef though...

As for Generators, it takes electricity to pump the fuel sooooo...... I bet there would be fuel but it would be so expensive.
But how many animals will be left after 6 months of the "other" country boys hunting too? A year with hot and cold weather uses a lot of wood for heating and cooking. Sounds like a shortage of wood and food take place, Maybe....
 
I think that what we would also have to worry about is what everyone else would do. It would certainly change life as we know it. There have been plenty of doomsday movies so we all have a pretty good idea of what other people are willing to do to survive and the question would be are we able to do the same to survive. I didn't enjoy being with out power for the 9 days after Katrina but still had access to food & water. what would have happened when they ran out? altho we have plenty of land to farm it would be impossible to get anything started quick enough especially in Aug. Frankly I'd probably only last as long as available food lasted or until someone killed me trying to get what I had.

Your absolutely right! Katrina was a good example of how chaos can lead to hysteria and violence. I was glad to see that many communities in the affected areas came together to surivive and rebuild, but CNN painted the picture of the more destructive side of humanity. Survival is much more than word! :)
 
So I am wondering if this will affect only electronis that are on when the flare hits? Or will it affect them all regardless? Just wondering whatr people thoughts were on this. Also I guess I should invest in a silencer and sniper rifle with lots of ammo for protection.

Yes and no. The electronics can get power surges through them even if they are off because this is geomagnetic energy. Just like the magnets in our pumps use their magnetic energy when energized. If the storm is strong enough it could power light bulbs not attached to anything and could fry delicate electronics that are sensitive to static voltages. Remember the crude 1859 telegraph machines were typing away with out any power hooked to them and some got hot enough from electrical resistance to start paper on fire! However, one of the countermeasures against a destructive storm is to shut down the power grid and leave it off until the storm subsides, which could take up to 7 days!
 

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