The Wrasse Lover's Thread!

[Cael Gallery]

Hate to stress the fish but if you catch it maybe consider a temperature matched tap water bath. Any eye symptoms in any of the fish? You mentioned chronic flukes. Neobenedenia? Maybe other internal parasites.

When i got the fish from the airport i gave it a freshwater bath for 2.5 minutes. None of the fish have clouded eyes or anything and haven't since i've had them. That being said, i checked a couple hours after i posted this and the wrasse was swimming around, eating mysis and looked perfectly fine. So i don't know, maybe i'm worrying about nothing

 

[i cant think]

When i got the fish from the airport i gave it a freshwater bath for 2.5 minutes. None of the fish have clouded eyes or anything and haven't since i've had them. That being said, i checked a couple hours after i posted this and the wrasse was swimming around, eating mysis and looked perfectly fine. So i don't know, maybe i'm worrying about nothing

Freshwater dip it anyway - I didn’t think I had fluke and next thing I knew, my fish were behaving oddly.
Always and I mean always play it safe. I don’t do a lot however when it comes to fluke in a wrasse tank, deal with it sooner and not later - wrasses aren’t prone to many things but fluke is one that I have had real issues with in my wrasse tank.

 

[Crabby48]

Freshwater dip it anyway - I didn’t think I had fluke and next thing I knew, my fish were behaving oddly.
Always and I mean always play it safe. I don’t do a lot however when it comes to fluke in a wrasse tank, deal with it sooner and not later - wrasses aren’t prone to many things but fluke is one that I have had real issues with in my wrasse

why not treat them as fw dips is hard on them and does not treat or take care of the issue?
I never understand the use of fw dips nowadays but also don't understand the use of a mask or how a tang can get ich from no donor

 

[Tcook]

also don't understand the use of a mask

To scare people of course

 

[tbrown]

 

[Tcook]

@Crabby48 started this

 

[Crabby48]

@Crabby48 started this

I should be banned immediately

 

[tbrown]

I should be banned immediately

Or promoted?

 

[i cant think]

Or promoted?

Definitely this

 

[i cant think]

I don’t know if I’ve shown these photos or not but hey, why not have it twice if I’ve already shown them.
The Kaleidos Pencil and Doliatus Ring :)

 

[Crabby48]

Or promoted?

Definitely this

Absolutely not

I don’t know if I’ve shown these photos or not but hey, why not have it twice if I’ve already shown them.
The Kaleidos Pencil and Doliatus Ring :)

Stunning little noodles

 

[Cael Gallery]

why not treat them as fw dips is hard on them and does not treat or take care of the issue?
I never understand the use of fw dips nowadays but also don't understand the use of a mask or how a tang can get ich from no donor

Yeah. The problem is i have like 33 or 34 fish in there. It's not really feasible to catch all of them and freshwater dip them, especially when the flukes would still be in the tank.

 

[Cael Gallery]

The wrasse looked fine this morning though. Eating and swimming well. I posted this question to the fish diagnosis forum thing and Jay Hemdal suggested it could be the glycol solvent in the prazipro that i used. Maybe Thalassoma are more sensitive to that since most of my other wrasses didn't seem to care. Although my bird wrasse always hides for a couple hours after i initially dose it, which supports my theory since bird wrasses are actually Thalassoma. Maybe i'll use prazi powder in the future

Another cool thing, this is the second morning in a row where my P.yamashiroi has come out. It only comes out for like 30 minutes to an hour before going back under the sand though. And annoyingly, every time i add mysis to the tank to get it to eat it buries itself. It looks healthy and active but won't leave one half of the tank for some reason. Hopefully it starts to make longer appearances.

 

[Barncat]

I know people tend to hate them but I love my sixline Tangelo

 

[Crabby48]

Yeah. The problem is i have like 33 or 34 fish in there. It's not really feasible to catch all of them and freshwater dip them, especially when the flukes would still be in the tank.

You can bind meds to food with focus but still leaves an issue of other things in the tank could eat it
praziquantel can be dosed to display but still sucks having to risk meds in a reef tank

 

[Cael Gallery]

You can bind meds to food with focus but still leaves an issue of other things in the tank could eat it
praziquantel can be dosed to display but still sucks having to risk meds in a reef tank

Isn't that more for internal parasites? My tank is fish only too

 

[i cant think]

Isn't that more for internal parasites? My tank is fish only too

It works for internal parasites because it gets into the blood of the fish, that’s what flukes feed off of as well (much like fleas with dogs/cats).
The way I think of flukes is most of the time, they are just internal parasites.

 

[i cant think]

Although my bird wrasse always hides for a couple hours after i initially dose it, which supports my theory since bird wrasses are actually Thalassoma.

Out of curiosity, why do you think this?
Is it mainly because Gomphosus and Thalassoma are closely related genera? Because Gomphosus has never had Thalassoma as a synonym.
Here’s the Thalassoma/Gomphosus family tree :)

I’m still tempted to see how easy it is to do a family tree for the reef safe (arguably nicer) genera.

 

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The photo is bad - I don’t want to startle her too much but look at this gorgeous girl!

 

[Cael Gallery]

Out of curiosity, why do you think this?
Is it mainly because Gomphosus and Thalassoma are closely related genera? Because Gomphosus has never had Thalassoma as a synonym.
Here’s the Thalassoma/Gomphosus family tree :)

I’m still tempted to see how easy it is to do a family tree for the reef safe (arguably nicer) genera.

Yes, phylogenetically Gomphosus and Thalassoma are the same and should be synonymised. As you can see in the phylogenetic tree, both 'Gomphosus' species are more closely related to the type species T.purpureum than either T.bailleui or T.septemfasciatum are. So essentially, if the 2 latter species are still considered Thalassoma then so should the 'Gomphosus' species. I'm not really sure why this hasn't happened yet since there's been multiple phylogenetic studies over the years that support what i said. It's also pretty apparent if you just look at them, if you chopped the head or nose off of a bird wrasse you'd see the rest of the body is identical to most Thalassoma.