The Wrasse Lover's Thread!

[i cant think]

Well, I did wind up getting another leopard yesterday. Not the species I thought I’d get though, and I’m a lot happier with her!

Went down to the dealer to get some more livestock for the shop, and well, there she was. The perfect size, fat and thriving Macropharyngodon choati. She ate instantly after hitting the tank, so now I have 2 Macros that are just pigs! Here they are, both going to have a Prazi dose on Thursday, I’m still questioning the Lapillus, just due to the colouration on them being like no other wrasse.

 

[Boreas_SA]

Well, I did wind up getting another leopard yesterday. Not the species I thought I’d get though, and I’m a lot happier with her!

Went down to the dealer to get some more livestock for the shop, and well, there she was. The perfect size, fat and thriving Macropharyngodon choati. She ate instantly after hitting the tank, so now I have 2 Nacros that are just pigs! Here they are, both going to have a Prazi dose on Thursday, I’m still questioning the Lapillus, just due to the colouration on them being like no other wrasse.

Where is the lapillus, also in there?

 

[i cant think]

Where is the lapillus, also in there?

The lapillus is still at the shop as I’ve been unsure if I go for her or not, she’s gorgeous but I’m unsure how she’d behave with those two.
I may leave the lapillus a week or so as I aim to line up my prazi dosing with the prazi dosing at the shop.

 

[Boreas_SA]

Lapillus are pretty cool, but more Halichoeres than Macropharyngodon, also gets a bit larger than those 2. Haven’t found them to be aggressive at all. We sometimes get them locally in rockpools, this was in 2015:

 

[i cant think]

Lapillus are pretty cool, but more Halichoeres than Macropharyngodon, also gets a bit larger than those 2. Haven’t found them to be aggressive at all. We sometimes get them locally in rockpools, this was in 2015:

Yeah, they’re a true Halichoeres but they only seem to miss one trait otherwise they’d be Macropharyngodon - the throated teeth.

My main thing is my 5 foot is running on minimal space currently for more wrasses so ive got to be selective with what I go for… until i have a 6 footer

 

[85173]

I’m still questioning the Lapillus, just due to the colouration on them being like no other wrasse.

So based on colouration being different, you must have about another 590 wrasse species to add to your collection!

 

[i cant think]

So based on colouration being different, you must have about another 590 wrasse species to add to your collection!

It always surprises me looking at my 5 foot tank filled with red, and I can never see blocks of it
It’s always somehow spread out by the other colours that wrasses bring.

The red Wrasses I have are…
2x Paracheilinus flavianalis (yellow/orange)
1x Cirrhilabrus naokoae (yellow/red)
1x Halichoeres iridis (red/yellow)
1x Paracheilinus attenuatus (red)

 

[85173]

@Slocke is it true that H. chrysurus and H. chloropterus are going to change genus to Pseudocoris!?!!

 

[i cant think]

@Slocke is it true that H. chrysurus and H. chloropterus are going to change genus to Pseudocoris!?!!

I’d be surprised if this happened - H. chloropterus itself is closer in relation to the Coris genus (it’s closest relative is Coris batuensis). If it was to be moved it’s more likely to be moved into that genus.

Similar to this, if this was the case with Halichoeres chrysus due to it’s relations within the Biochoeres complex. It would be more likely that if Halichoeres chrysus moved into Pseudocoris, it would have to move Halichoeres leucoxanthus (the sister species within the Indian Ocean) and possibly Halichoeres iridis as well (the closest relative to Chrysus).

If you like charts, here’s the one I use for the Halichoeres complexes and the general they’re closest in relation to.

 

[251924]

Added a new wrasse to the 6 footer, Marble/checkerboard

He joins in with a blue star leopard, melanurus and yellow canary wrasse.
So for they are getting along. He did try snapping at my one spot foxface but now the fox flares its spikes
and no more aggression yet.

I hope this guy isnt going to be a problem, or at least doesnt get the purple tang going after him.

 

[Boreas_SA]

Talking about Pseudocoris, still trying to positively identify this one, came from indo (maybe heteroptera), hopefully turns terminal male soon, it is around 100mm already:

 

[Slocke]

I’d be surprised if this happened - H. chloropterus itself is closer in relation to the Coris genus (it’s closest relative is Coris batuensis). If it was to be moved it’s more likely to be moved into that genus.

Similar to this, if this was the case with Halichoeres chrysus due to it’s relations within the Biochoeres complex. It would be more likely that if Halichoeres chrysus moved into Pseudocoris, it would have to move Halichoeres leucoxanthus (the sister species within the Indian Ocean) and possibly Halichoeres iridis as well (the closest relative to Chrysus).

If you like charts, here’s the one I use for the Halichoeres complexes and the general they’re closest in relation to.

Coris is such a mess. Whoever thought of polyphyletic groups is insane they should always be mono. Halichoeres is a lot better but I'd suggest, as you say, splitting them by sub-genera. Biochoeres looks to be a good group for example.


TBH the whole Corinae subfamily maybe needs renaming and classification

 

[85173]

I’d be surprised if this happened - H. chloropterus itself is closer in relation to the Coris genus (it’s closest relative is Coris batuensis). If it was to be moved it’s more likely to be moved into that genus.

Similar to this, if this was the case with Halichoeres chrysus due to it’s relations within the Biochoeres complex. It would be more likely that if Halichoeres chrysus moved into Pseudocoris, it would have to move Halichoeres leucoxanthus (the sister species within the Indian Ocean) and possibly Halichoeres iridis as well (the closest relative to Chrysus).

If you like charts, here’s the one I use for the Halichoeres complexes and the general they’re closest in relation to.

Coris is such a mess. Whoever thought of polyphyletic groups is insane they should always be mono. Halichoeres is a lot better but I'd suggest, as you say, splitting them by sub-genera. Biochoeres looks to be a good group for example.


TBH the whole Corinae subfamily maybe needs renaming and classification

You both missed the humour! Yellow Coris and Green Coris are not coris wrasse, therefore they are Pseudocoris!

 

[Slocke]

You both missed the humour! Yellow Coris and Green Coris are not coris wrasse, therefore they are Pseudocoris!

…
Yeah
We too nerdy. We have fake lips

 

[i cant think]

Talking about Pseudocoris, still trying to positively identify this one, came from indo (maybe heteroptera), hopefully turns terminal male soon, it is around 100mm already:

Can you get a white light photo?

 

[Boreas_SA]

Can you get a white light photo?

I’ll try tomorrow, it goes to bed early. But it is pretty much a uniform slate gray. Here are some pics from February when it was still a juvenile:

 

[mpatterson42]

This is Fuggo (my wife named him), my pink streaked wrasse, it's tough to get a photo of him because he's very shy!

 

[Sean Clark]

My carpenter's flasher wrasse not flashing for the photo shoot.

 

[Sean Clark]

Added a new wrasse to the 6 footer, Marble/checkerboard

He joins in with a blue star leopard, melanurus and yellow canary wrasse.
So for they are getting along. He did try snapping at my one spot foxface but now the fox flares its spikes
and no more aggression yet.

I hope this guy isnt going to be a problem, or at least doesnt get the purple tang going after him.

I've got a large one that is mostly a model citizen.

 

[85173]

Talking about Pseudocoris, still trying to positively identify this one, came from indo (maybe heteroptera), hopefully turns terminal male soon, it is around 100mm already:

P. heteroptera is a fish I plan for my system in a few years when we move house. So I hope yours turns out to be one! They are stunning as males and so rare to find a peaceful green coloured reef safe fish. Please keep the photos coming as it matures,