The Wrasse Lover's Thread!

So subjective, it's impossible for anyone besides you to answer. ;)

About 90% of them... ;Wacky

I figured as much. I suppose I will just browse through as many as I can find and pick.

Another question: In a Reefer 250 how many wrasse can I have? From what I understand they don't really get along with one another so am I limited to 1 given the size of the tank?
 
I will just browse through as many as I can find and pick.
I'm happy to comment on specific species you may be interested in. :)
In a Reefer 250 how many wrasse can I have?
If you chose wisely, 8-10 or so.
From what I understand they don't really get along with one another so am I limited to 1 given the size of the tank?
Not necessarily true. Start here: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/all-about-reef-safe-wrasses-in-aquaria.259894/
 
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My latest addition, a really small and super mellow Cirrhilabrus laboutei. Picture taken under morning sunlight. :)
 
Not sure I can like this pic enough! Beautiful!

Thank you Randman73. I love those 2 guys. They are my favorite. They are unbelievable eaters. The Lineatus takes food right from my hands.
 
I've been waiting so long to be able to post on this and now I can[emoji16][emoji16][emoji16] here's my pair of black spotted leopard wrasse
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ft. My siblings and their background noise, enjoy because I definitely do!! Got them Monday so far so good[emoji4] well unfortunately I just realized idk how to post a vid so a pic will have to suffice
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Worst pix in the world, they don't stay still but I'll get better ones eventually
 
@evolved I remember seeing in your build thread that you have a H. lapillus.

I currently have two going through tank transfer. Both are from a friend's tank, and have been with him for two years. I attempted to do tank transfer from day one, but they were thrashing and jumping in the container, so I decided to rather put them in an observation tank first, to give them time to settle down. They were in there for a week and a half before I started tank transfer again. It is now 7 days in, and still every time I come close they either lie down motionless or thrash around and jump. So much so that one has damaged her upper "lip". When I watch them from a distance they are however calm and swim around normally. They also don't eat when I'm close, but do when I'm not.

Every other wrasse I've done tank transfer with calmed by around day 3, and after 7 days were almost tame. Having been in captivity for two year already, I didn't expect these to be so wild.

Did you experience the same?
 
@evolved I remember seeing in your build thread that you have a H. lapillus.

I currently have two going through tank transfer. Both are from a friend's tank, and have been with him for two years. I attempted to do tank transfer from day one, but they were thrashing and jumping in the container, so I decided to rather put them in an observation tank first, to give them time to settle down. They were in there for a week and a half before I started tank transfer again. It is now 7 days in, and still every time I come close they either lie down motionless or thrash around and jump. So much so that one has damaged her upper "lip". When I watch them from a distance they are however calm and swim around normally. They also don't eat when I'm close, but do when I'm not.

Every other wrasse I've done tank transfer with calmed by around day 3, and after 7 days were almost tame. Having been in captivity for two year already, I didn't expect these to be so wild.

Did you experience the same?
Well, this will be a story. I originally had 5 of them, then 2, now 4. But I've never acquired more than 5 different specimens, and all are still alive... :p Let's come back to that.

So first off, it's worth noting that while they're classified as a Halichoeres, we don't necessarily believe that. Everyone thinks they're actually a Macropharyngodon, or at least an early ancestor to the genus. When Randall classified them years back, he thought so too - but one characteristic feature of the Macropharyngodon genus are the pharyngeal teeth - which he did not observe in lapillus. So they found their way into the Halichoeres genus, but everyone still questions that.

Nevertheless, you should think of them as a Macropharyngodon in behavior and treat them as such.With that being said, TTM might be rough.

Now, back to the mysterious story. A few (3?) years ago, I was delightfully humbled by a friend in Mauritius sending me 5 lapillus at zero cost. Truly a gift of friendship. :D At that time, I only had my 190g tank, and with no plans to move or upgrade in sight. Plus, the tank already had a healthy wrasse population in it. Needless to say, I didn't have much of plan when it came to these 5 new fish! So I QT'd all 5 together in a 10g tank, since that seemed like a flawless idea. :P Yes, that really happened, but I certainly don't recommend anyone put 5 fish in a 10g QT. In many ways, I even hate to make a public record of doing such. It's certainly not a sound idea. I recognized this risk and stayed on top of water conditions and water changes.

It took a good week or so for them to settle in, and during that time they were pretty spooky. But once settled in, I didn't find them difficult - all ate mysis with ease. At about 4 weeks into QT and all 5 doing great, I began to make a plan as to what I was going to do with them. I eventually elected to keep 2, give 2 to @zibba, and ship one to @Brad Syphus. Brad is another friend of the giver in Mauritius, so that was an easy choice to make. Zibba is a dear friend and at that time lived ~25 min away and had a 450g tank.

Fast forward to present. This past June zibba moved out of state and broke down his tank. He graciously gave me the 2 lapillus back, as I now have a 270g tank after moving across town last year. Both of my lapillus were still female, and only one of his showed some signs of beginning to possibly transition. I felt pretty comfortable adding his 2 back with my 2 - as comfortable as I could anyway. And my intuition proved good - all 4 are coexisting acceptably in my tank now for the past 3 months. The first few days were a bit touchy, as the smallest lapillus of the group stayed buried for the majority of the day, but we're past those scares now.

And that's the story of how I had 5, then 2, now 4. :P Oh, and Brad still has his too. :D
 
Well, this will be a story. I originally had 5 of them, then 2, now 4. But I've never acquired more than 5 different specimens, and all are still alive... :p Let's come back to that.

So first off, it's worth noting that while they're classified as a Halichoeres, we don't necessarily believe that. Everyone thinks they're actually a Macropharyngodon, or at least an early ancestor to the genus. When Randall classified them years back, he thought so too - but one characteristic feature of the Macropharyngodon genus are the pharyngeal teeth - which he did not observe in lapillus. So they found their way into the Halichoeres genus, but everyone still questions that.

Nevertheless, you should think of them as a Macropharyngodon in behavior and treat them as such.With that being said, TTM might be rough.

Now, back to the mysterious story. A few (3?) years ago, I was delightfully humbled by a friend in Mauritius sending me 5 lapillus at zero cost. Truly a gift of friendship. :D At that time, I only had my 190g tank, and with no plans to move or upgrade in sight. Plus, the tank already had a healthy wrasse population in it. Needless to say, I didn't have much of plan when it came to these 5 new fish! So I QT'd all 5 together in a 10g tank, since that seemed like a flawless idea. :p Yes, that really happened, but I certainly don't recommend anyone put 5 fish in a 10g QT. In many ways, I even hate to make a public record of doing such. It's certainly not a sound idea. I recognized this risk and stayed on top of water conditions and water changes.

It took a good week or so for them to settle in, and during that time they were pretty spooky. But once settled in, I didn't find them difficult - all ate mysis with ease. At about 4 weeks into QT and all 5 doing great, I began to make a plan as to what I was going to do with them. I eventually elected to keep 2, give 2 to @zibba, and ship one to @Brad Syphus. Brad is another friend of the giver in Mauritius, so that was an easy choice to make. Zibba is a dear friend and at that time lived ~25 min away and had a 450g tank.

Fast forward to present. This past June zibba moved out of state and broke down his tank. He graciously gave me the 2 lapillus back, as I now have a 270g tank after moving across town last year. Both of my lapillus were still female, and only one of his showed some signs of beginning to possibly transition. I felt pretty comfortable adding his 2 back with my 2 - as comfortable as I could anyway. And my intuition proved good - all 4 are coexisting acceptably in my tank now for the past 3 months. The first few days were a bit touchy, as the smallest lapillus of the group stayed buried for the majority of the day, but we're past those scares now.

And that's the story of how I had 5, then 2, now 4. :p Oh, and Brad still has his too. :D


Thanks for this, a very interesting story indeed.

From when I first saw a Lapillus, everything about it said Macropharyngodon, and still does, in both looks and behavior, so I have to force myself to think about them as Halichoeres.

In my readings before taking them I came across this article, which ends off with the species, which also explains the confusion you mentioned above.

https://reefs.com/magazine/macropharyngodon-tale-throated-teeth/


I'll end TTM on Sunday, and am contemplating forgoing the acclimation box since the small confines are what seems to be causing their stress, as well as probably not being able to add a big enough sand container. I am however worried about how my H. marginatus may react, so may opt to add them to the acclimation box at least for a few hours, while I actively observe. Hopefully once in the tank they'll calm down.
 
So I have a 180 gallon tank with currently no wrasses, I had a green and a hovens but moved them both to my FLOWR.

I am thinking of adding some more nicer wrasses now. I was thinking of getting 2-3 blue sided fairy wrasse? Could I do this or would they kill eachother? I really like these wrasses and theyre very cheap.

Could I add an exquisite fairy wrasse too, along with a leopard wrasse and a lubbocks fairy wrasse? I really like all of these and theyre on the cheaper side too. Could I add any multiple of a certain wrasse, like multiple exquisite, leopards or lubbocks too?

I have at least 1 inch sand bed everywhere and in the back by the rocks it is 2 inches
 
So I have a 180 gallon tank with currently no wrasses, I had a green and a hovens but moved them both to my FLOWR.

I am thinking of adding some more nicer wrasses now. I was thinking of getting 2-3 blue sided fairy wrasse? Could I do this or would they kill eachother? I really like these wrasses and theyre very cheap.

Could I add an exquisite fairy wrasse too, along with a leopard wrasse and a lubbocks fairy wrasse? I really like all of these and theyre on the cheaper side too. Could I add any multiple of a certain wrasse, like multiple exquisite, leopards or lubbocks too?

I have at least 1 inch sand bed everywhere and in the back by the rocks it is 2 inches
Don't get 3 of the same kind of any fairy wrasse. Stick to only 1 per species. All those other species will be compatible.
 
Don't get 3 of the same kind of any fairy wrasse. Stick to only 1 per species. All those other species will be compatible.

That is what I thought so thank you for confirming! Any other cheaper wrasses you guys recommend that are safe and compatible with the ones I named above? Blue sided, exquisite, leopard and lubbocks.

Would hovens be fine with these?
 
@evolved, @eatbreakfast did you guys see the P. hemitaeniatus for sale on NYA? I've never seen one offered since I've been in the hobby. How often do these flasher wrasse show up?
They had been very rarely imported, but RVS set up a collection station on Madagascar, so they should be coming in with more regularity.
 
Would adding a Canary Wrasse and adding two unmated Yellow Banded Possum Wrasses get along in my 54G reef established for a year? Other fish being an established Coral Beauty, Ocellaris Clown, and some Chromis?
 
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My lineatus is on his side swimming on his side. He has been hiding in the rocks for about a day. When I fed the tank, he came out into a low current area in a cave, but he has his side up.

What could be going wrong and what could I do?
 

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