This ICP test recommendation cant be right? can it?????

[Reef Puncher]

aint no way in hell im adding 100 mls of fluorine to my aquarium i dont care what this says. can this be right? i asked chatgpt, and they said i should add 6ml's to get to 1.2mg/l. 6 mls is a far cry from 100.

 

[Slocke]

Yeah please don’t add 100ml of fluorine to your tank. I believe your tank would explode.

 

[KrisReef]

aint no way in hell im adding 100 mls of fluorine to my aquarium i dont care what this says. can this be right? i asked chatgpt, and they said i should add 6ml's to get to 1.2mg/l. 6 mls is a far cry from 100.

If you add that much please take a video of the tanks reaction.

 

[mook1178]

I would trust ICP more than ChatGPT. ChatGPT is designed for chat and not mathmatical models. One huge thing to note is that the ICP says to spread out the 99 mls over at least 2 days. I would probably do it over a week.

To really know the right answer though we would need to know the concentration of the Flourine solution being added and the size of your tank.

 

[ShanePike]

@mook1178 is right: don't ever trust ChatGPT for math. How many gallons is your tank?

And note that they're telling you to add fluoride, not fluorine. Elementals Trace F is fluoride: https://www.faunamarin.de/en/elementals-f/

 

[Reginald Reefer III]

Very normal to add Flouride in that amount. My monthly ICP test usually has a correction of 35mL/day for 6-7 days on a ~100g total volume tank.

 

[brclark82]

How big is your tank?

Fauna Marin Elemental F instructions state:
10 ml per 100 l increases the fluoride content by 0.2 mg/l. Maximum daily dose: +0.5 mg/l

 

[BeanAnimal]

The question of the day

Is Fauna Marin's math more or less accurate than ChatGPT's. @Garf?

 

[brclark82]

The midpoint recommended level for F is 1.25 mg/L so yours is 0.57 mg/L low at 0.68.

To increase 0.57 over 2 days based on their recommendations of ~50ml per day means you probably have about a 350L tank I'm guessing?

My math could be way off but I would trust the results just make sure you're using the product recommended or come up with your own math if a different product

 

[Reef Puncher]

I would trust ICP more than ChatGPT. ChatGPT is designed for chat and not mathmatical models. One huge thing to note is that the ICP says to spread out the 99 mls over at least 2 days. I would probably do it over a week.

To really know the right answer though we would need to know the concentration of the Flourine solution being added and the size of your tank.

you would be shocked at how accurate AI can be. look at their answer, ill paste below, they even got the back of the aquaforest instructions correct, of their recommended dosing instructions without me telling them the strength. thats pretty smart. that, and just logic says no way 100mls of fluorine is a good idea.

To increase the fluorine level in your tank from 0.68 mg/L to 1.2 mg/L, you'll need to add Aquaforest Fluorine. Here's how you can calculate the dosage:

1. Determine the increase needed: 1.2 mg/L−0.68 mg/L=0.52 mg/L1.2mg/L−0.68mg/L=0.52mg/L
2. Calculate the dosage: According to Aquaforest, 1 ml of Fluorine raises the fluorine level by 0.06 mg/L in 100 liters (27 US gallons) of water
   
   
   0.52 mg/L0.06 mg/L=8.67 ml0.06mg/L0.52mg/L=8.67ml

So, you need to add approximately 8.67 ml of Aquaforest Fluorine to your tank to achieve the desired increase in fluorine levels.

 

[mook1178]

you would be shocked at how accurate AI can be. look at their answer, ill paste below, they even got the back of the aquaforest instructions correct, of their recommended dosing instructions without me telling them the strength. thats pretty smart. that, and just logic says no way 100mls of fluorine is a good idea.

To increase the fluorine level in your tank from 0.68 mg/L to 1.2 mg/L, you'll need to add Aquaforest Fluorine. Here's how you can calculate the dosage:

1. Determine the increase needed: 1.2 mg/L−0.68 mg/L=0.52 mg/L1.2mg/L−0.68mg/L=0.52mg/L
2. Calculate the dosage: According to Aquaforest, 1 ml of Fluorine raises the fluorine level by 0.06 mg/L in 100 liters (27 US gallons) of water
   
   
   0.52 mg/L0.06 mg/L=8.67 ml0.06mg/L0.52mg/L=8.67ml

So, you need to add approximately 8.67 ml of Aquaforest Fluorine to your tank to achieve the desired increase in fluorine levels.

look at point number 1. It says 1.2-0.68=0.52. I rest my case on ChatGPT not being good at math.

 

[Reef Puncher]

The midpoint recommended level for F is 1.25 mg/L so yours is 0.57 mg/L low at 0.68.

To increase 0.57 over 2 days based on their recommendations of ~50ml per day means you probably have about a 350L tank I'm guessing?

My math could be way off but I would trust the results just make sure you're using the product recommended or come up with your own math if a different product

i redid my test with liters, 246 liter tank, with chat gpt. it said 22 mls which is higher than i thought. but way less than 100. math sounded right
Let's calculate the dosage for your 246-liter tank:

1. Determine the increase needed: 1.2 mg/L−0.68 mg/L=0.52 mg/L1.2mg/L−0.68mg/L=0.52mg/L
2. Calculate the dosage for 100 liters: According to Aquaforest, 1 ml of Fluorine raises the fluorine level by 0.06 mg/L in 100 liters of water.
3. Calculate the dosage for 246 liters: 0.52 mg/L0.06 mg/L×246 liters100 liters=21.32 ml0.06mg/L0.52mg/L×100liters246liters=21.32ml

So, you need to add approximately 21.32 ml of Aquaforest Fluorine to your 246-liter tank to achieve the desired increase in fluorine levels.

Is there anything else I can help you with regarding your tank?

 

[ShanePike]

Here's the key part: in 100 liters (27 US gallons) of water. Is that how much water you have?

Edit: You corrected for that as I was typing.

 

[brclark82]

Tropic Marin requires about 3 times the amount of product be added as Aquaforest for Flourine and it looks like your ICP test uses Tropic Marin as the recommendation.

Also you still haven't mentioned the volume of water you're trying to increase

 

[Reef Puncher]

look at point number 1. It says 1.2-0.68=0.52. I rest my case on ChatGPT not being good at math.

? thats right? 0.68 subtracted from 1.2 is 0.52?? unless im just dumb

 

[Reef Puncher]

Here's the key part: in 100 liters (27 US gallons) of water. Is that how much water you have?

right under it, it accounts for my 246

 

[mook1178]

i redid my test with liters, 246 liter tank, with chat gpt. it said 22 mls which is higher than i thought. but way less than 100. math sounded right
Let's calculate the dosage for your 246-liter tank:

1. Determine the increase needed: 1.2 mg/L−0.68 mg/L=0.52 mg/L1.2mg/L−0.68mg/L=0.52mg/L
2. Calculate the dosage for 100 liters: According to Aquaforest, 1 ml of Fluorine raises the fluorine level by 0.06 mg/L in 100 liters of water.
3. Calculate the dosage for 246 liters: 0.52 mg/L0.06 mg/L×246 liters100 liters=21.32 ml0.06mg/L0.52mg/L×100liters246liters=21.32ml

So, you need to add approximately 21.32 ml of Aquaforest Fluorine to your 246-liter tank to achieve the desired increase in fluorine levels.

Is there anything else I can help you with regarding your tank?

The very fist calculation is simple subtraction and it got that wrong

? thats right? 0.68 subtracted from 1.2 is 0.52?? unless im just dumb

1.2-0.68 is 0.54

 

[brclark82]

A couple things, you are using 1.2 mg/L and ICP is using 1.25 for the desired value and you are using a product at a completely different concentration than the product the ICP test is recommending

 

[brclark82]

The very fist calculation is simple subtraction and it got that wrong

1.2-0.68 is 0.54

I'm sorry, what?

 

[mook1178]

Oh **** look at me. LOL I checked that over multiple times now.

i am wrong.

Still it all depends on the way the question is asked.