No evidence that they help anything other than the bottom line of the manufacturer.
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Most of the reputable companies want to make something that provides results - it’s easier to sell that
The issue is that it seems like aminos do a great job at feeding stuff like vermitids instead of making our acros go nuts
The issue, IMO, is that there is no way, without extensive experimentation, to prove cause and effect in our systems. We don't even know what is in many of the additives available to us let alone whether or not they are a net benefit to our systems.
scotty333
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Yes, corals use amino acids for various biological functions. They can absorb dissolved amino acids from seawater and obtain them through their symbiotic relationship with Symbiodinium (zooxanthellae), the photosynthetic algae living in their tissues. Here’s how corals utilize amino acids:
1. Nutrition & Growth – Corals can take up dissolved free amino acids (DFAAs) directly from the water, which serve as a source of organic nitrogen for tissue growth and maintenance.
2. Protein Synthesis – Amino acids are the building blocks of proteins, which are essential for coral tissue development, skeletal formation, and enzymatic processes.
3. Symbiotic Relationship – The zooxanthellae inside corals can synthesize and transfer amino acids to their coral hosts, supporting their metabolism.
4. Stress Response & Metabolism – Corals regulate amino acid uptake and production to cope with environmental stress, such as bleaching, temperature fluctuations, and ocean acidification.
5. Skeletal Formation – Some amino acids are involved in the synthesis of organic matrices that help in coral biomineralization (calcium carbonate skeleton formation).
1. Nutrition & Growth – Corals can take up dissolved free amino acids (DFAAs) directly from the water, which serve as a source of organic nitrogen for tissue growth and maintenance.
2. Protein Synthesis – Amino acids are the building blocks of proteins, which are essential for coral tissue development, skeletal formation, and enzymatic processes.
3. Symbiotic Relationship – The zooxanthellae inside corals can synthesize and transfer amino acids to their coral hosts, supporting their metabolism.
4. Stress Response & Metabolism – Corals regulate amino acid uptake and production to cope with environmental stress, such as bleaching, temperature fluctuations, and ocean acidification.
5. Skeletal Formation – Some amino acids are involved in the synthesis of organic matrices that help in coral biomineralization (calcium carbonate skeleton formation).
scotty333
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Different amino acids play specific roles in coral biology. Here are some key ones:
1. Essential Amino Acids (EAA) – Cannot Be Synthesized by Corals
Corals must obtain these from their diet (plankton, dissolved organic matter, or symbionts).
• Histidine & Arginine – Important for tissue repair, growth, and immune responses.
• Lysine – Helps in collagen formation and skeletal development.
• Leucine & Isoleucine – Used in protein synthesis and energy metabolism.
• Methionine – Supports antioxidant defense and coral stress response.
2. Non-Essential Amino Acids (NEAA) – Can Be Synthesized by Corals
Corals can produce these, but they also absorb them from seawater.
• Glycine & Proline – Key components of the organic matrix that helps in calcium carbonate skeleton formation.
• Glutamate & Aspartate – Crucial for energy metabolism and neurotransmission in coral nervous systems.
• Serine & Tyrosine – Involved in enzymatic functions and cellular signaling.
3. Role of Amino Acids in Coral-Symbiont Interactions
• The zooxanthellae (Symbiodinium) produce and transfer amino acids like glutamine and alanine to their coral hosts.
• In return, corals provide nitrogen in the form of ammonium, which symbionts use to synthesize amino acids.
Amino acid metabolism is essential for coral health, especially during bleaching events when energy sources are disrupted.
1. Essential Amino Acids (EAA) – Cannot Be Synthesized by Corals
Corals must obtain these from their diet (plankton, dissolved organic matter, or symbionts).
• Histidine & Arginine – Important for tissue repair, growth, and immune responses.
• Lysine – Helps in collagen formation and skeletal development.
• Leucine & Isoleucine – Used in protein synthesis and energy metabolism.
• Methionine – Supports antioxidant defense and coral stress response.
2. Non-Essential Amino Acids (NEAA) – Can Be Synthesized by Corals
Corals can produce these, but they also absorb them from seawater.
• Glycine & Proline – Key components of the organic matrix that helps in calcium carbonate skeleton formation.
• Glutamate & Aspartate – Crucial for energy metabolism and neurotransmission in coral nervous systems.
• Serine & Tyrosine – Involved in enzymatic functions and cellular signaling.
3. Role of Amino Acids in Coral-Symbiont Interactions
• The zooxanthellae (Symbiodinium) produce and transfer amino acids like glutamine and alanine to their coral hosts.
• In return, corals provide nitrogen in the form of ammonium, which symbionts use to synthesize amino acids.
Amino acid metabolism is essential for coral health, especially during bleaching events when energy sources are disrupted.
I don't take such a cynical view, but I understand why others do.
Most of these companies are trying to find ways to provide value, and make enough profit to survive and keep growing while they're at it.
I haven't found a manufacturer yet that misses all their shots, nor one that hits all their shots.
We just have to cherry pick the best stuff.
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Is it chat GPT? It looks like marketing as opposed to science to me. I would not believe that text for a second.
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Here is how I see it.
Many corals have hybrid ways to intake and obtain nutrients. If a coral has a mouth, and the ability to digest food, then it is designed and intended by nature to do so. Along with photosynthesis. They both are needed and the coral will not thrive without both
This isn’t spending energy opening its mouth trying to catch some aminos. It is ready for food to supplement it
Many corals have hybrid ways to intake and obtain nutrients. If a coral has a mouth, and the ability to digest food, then it is designed and intended by nature to do so. Along with photosynthesis. They both are needed and the coral will not thrive without both
This isn’t spending energy opening its mouth trying to catch some aminos. It is ready for food to supplement it
scotty333
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Is that yours? What is it? Trachy?Here is how I see it.
Many corals have hybrid ways to intake and obtain nutrients. If a coral has a mouth, and the ability to digest food, then it is designed and intended by nature to do so. Along with photosynthesis. They both are needed and the coral will not thrive without both
This isn’t spending energy opening its mouth trying to catch some aminos. It is ready for food to supplement it
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Yes. master Trachyphyllia
And this scoly - does not care about me using amino or not, it opens and wants physical food every 2-3 days
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ah, ok.
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