Tropic Marin aminos

[VintageReefer]

Stunning
The closest I’ve got in similarity is a cynarina ultra red which I’ve had 7-8 months and I never fed it , if I was trying to grow it specifically I would

I feed all my Cynarina I recommend it

Look at them at night few hours after lights out. They are open and trying to capture food. They can slowly decline without regular feedings. They look fine until the day they aren’t

Minutes after lights come on they close up. If it’s lights out and they are extended, if I turn the lights on they will retract in seconds. These are night feeders

 

[scotty333]

I feed all my Cynarina I recommend it

Look at them at night few hours after lights out. They are open and trying to capture food. They can slowly decline without regular feedings. They look fine until the day they aren’t

Minutes after lights come on they close up. If it’s lights out and they are extended, if I turn the lights on they will retract in seconds. These are night feeders

Well over the last 25 years I’ve had a ton of “ mouths” corals and I never lost any too malnutrition
a few months ago I lost 3 torches and never put my finger on it but they all went in close succession so probably eefw

 

[KrisReef]

Different amino acids play specific roles in coral biology. Here are some key ones:





1. Essential Amino Acids (EAA) – Cannot Be Synthesized by Corals





Corals must obtain these from their diet (plankton, dissolved organic matter, or symbionts).


• Histidine & Arginine – Important for tissue repair, growth, and immune responses.


• Lysine – Helps in collagen formation and skeletal development.


• Leucine & Isoleucine – Used in protein synthesis and energy metabolism.


• Methionine – Supports antioxidant defense and coral stress response.





2. Non-Essential Amino Acids (NEAA) – Can Be Synthesized by Corals





Corals can produce these, but they also absorb them from seawater.


• Glycine & Proline – Key components of the organic matrix that helps in calcium carbonate skeleton formation.


• Glutamate & Aspartate – Crucial for energy metabolism and neurotransmission in coral nervous systems.


• Serine & Tyrosine – Involved in enzymatic functions and cellular signaling.





3. Role of Amino Acids in Coral-Symbiont Interactions


• The zooxanthellae (Symbiodinium) produce and transfer amino acids like glutamine and alanine to their coral hosts.


• In return, corals provide nitrogen in the form of ammonium, which symbionts use to synthesize amino acids.





Amino acid metabolism is essential for coral health, especially during bleaching events when energy sources are disrupted.

Thanks for the list of essentials required by coral.

Has anyone tried dosing Bragg Liquid Aminos?

 

[VintageReefer]

Well over the last 25 years I’ve had a ton of “ mouths” corals and I never lost any too malnutrition
a few months ago I lost 3 torches and never put my finger on it but they all went in close succession so probably eefw

I’ll step aside. Another topic for another day.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Thanks for the list of essentials required by coral.

Has anyone tried dosing Bragg Liquid Aminos?

I'd be concerned, or at last would want folks to recognize that it may not be all individual amino acids, but peptides and proteins as well.

 

[KrisReef]

I'd be concerned, or at last would want folks to recognize that it may not be all individual amino acids, but peptides and proteins as well.

I've always heard that some nutrition had to be imported and that metabolism needs have to be met, somehow. The list of ingredients, the source of the essential amino's seems to good to be true, at least to me?

More importantly:
I'm just enough of an educated person to be dangerous, so if anyone tries this don't blame me, and consider what RHF is expressing. I do not doubt nor discount these concerns.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I've always heard that some nutrition had to be imported and that metabolism needs have to be met, somehow. The list of ingredients, the source of the essential amino's seems to good to be true, at least to me?

More importantly:
I'm just enough of an educated person to be dangerous, so if anyone tries this don't blame me, and consider what RHF is expressing. I do not doubt nor discount these concerns.

The amino acids in a burger. Could be the next additive? lol

 

[KrisReef]

The amino acids in a burger. Could be the next additive? lol

This was the beauty of the other product, it contains the essentials and a few others but no animal fats just Soy. No need to heat up the patty.

 

[KrisReef]

Randy’s Reef Burgers.
All your reef needs, skimmer required.

Not available at any price

 

[vetteguy53081]

Just about to start on this stuff but was unsure since the bottle says it reduces po4 and if your under .03 you shouldn’t use it
My tanks been at .04 for months now and didn’t want to risk it
In the end I thought I’ll give it a shot and maybe I’ll just need to add a bit more food to keep up the po4 so did a start po4 test ( Hanna) and got .08 which was a surprise so I have room if it does lower po4
Anyone else got experience of this product?
I’ll keep an eye on po4 and report back any change

Ive used it and do not any impact on water chemistry

 

[Hans-Werner]

I never noticed a drop in phosphate but did see cyano for the first time with it.

Well, that are effects frequently tied together, cyano and dropping phosphate concentrations or cyano and amino acid application.

Adding available nitrogen and adding organic carbon should lower phosphate concentrations, whether the effect can be found with test kits or not. Amino acids add both, available nitrogen and organic carbon.

 

[Hooz]

I can’t say, but I know the smaller scale vendors that I’ve talked to at shows don’t use aminos didn't find that they did anything meaningful

I would say there is a HUGE difference between coral "vendors" who receive shipments, chop stuff up and maybe hold it for a week until their next live stream auction (or whatever) and actual aquaculture setups where the goal is long term growth, health and color.

I feel like I put more weight behind WWC using them than I do "Jimmy's Frag Garage" not using them.

 

[Faurek]

I think many hobbyists are finding that aminos are borderline snake oil

I don’t know any coral farmers that use them for growth or color

Tidal gardens uses Aquavitro fuel on and off, which is carbohydrates and AAs. Some people seem to stand by acropower as well. But maybe fish food already has all the AA needed.

 

[Faurek]

As a almost sports degree person AAs are part of sports marketing, but with a good diet you already get those aminos and it's wasted money, with a very bad diet they might help a bit, I would never recommend and bad diets and buy supplements, good food always first. Bringing this to the aquarium, first thing would be feeding the fish and plankton and then add those aminos. Why? Protein is aminos, so in the bases of it very simplified, mysis, brine shrimp, rotifers, etc are basically aminos and fat. Very simplified

 

[KrisReef]

As a almost sports degree person AAs are part of sports marketing, but with a good diet you already get those aminos and it's wasted money, with a very bad diet they might help a bit, I would never recommend and bad diets and buy supplements, good food always first. Bringing this to the aquarium, first thing would be feeding the fish and plankton and then add those aminos. Why? Protein is aminos, so in the bases of it very simplified, mysis, brine shrimp, rotifers, etc are basically aminos and fat. Very simplified

I agree. I get caught up with the nutritional content/ value of the narrower aquarium diet, mostly frozen or freeze dried foods and the nagging thought that these foods might be AA poor, so I want to supplement if needed. Big IF.