Trouble keeping LPS... trouble shooting

Ljaus · Oct 27, 2016

When the polyps stay tight and don't inflate it can be from too much light, could explain why they are inflating more at night instead of the day. The center of the scolly looks a bit bleached or infected. All of your sps look great!

david p. · Oct 27, 2016

my scoly would tipicaly be inflated during day but no polyps. at night, polyps out. it's color is 'normal' a mix of purple, pink and white.
the one that looks rly bad it the welso (the green/yellow one). lots of bone is visible.

i'll wait a week or two before changing something.

scoly and acan, should hold till then... wellso... not sure.

Ljaus · Oct 27, 2016

Good luck. I hope they improve for you

dodgerblew · Oct 28, 2016

My Acans started receding and dying off. The culprit I believe were peppermint shrimp

Elementalj · Oct 31, 2016

I was gonna say it looks like too much light and some infection. Remove some of the slime with a turkey baster while it's submerged in a dip. Then place them in a lower light area of the tank.

Salty.Reefer · Oct 31, 2016

I had a similar brown slime on a brain that transferred it to a long tenticle plate and some acans. Do not act slowly! I tried to give the original brain 4 days when I went away for a weekend. It went from simular to your scoly to absolte mush. That is when the ltp and acans looked worse quickly and I did a very quick 1/10 dilution peroxide/salt dip. Helped a ton for acans but my ltp needed a second dip the next day that I should have done. Waited one day too long and it turned into brown mush.
More pictures never hurts!
Best of luck!

david p. · Oct 31, 2016

dodgerblew said:
My Acans started receding and dying off. The culprit I believe were peppermint shrimp

i don't have a peppermint shrimp, but i have a crab (hitchhicker) that i could not identify and catch, he lives in a crack in my LR not that far from my LPS.

Salty.Reefer said:
I had a similar brown slime on a brain that transferred it to a long tenticle plate and some acans. Do not act slowly! I tried to give the original brain 4 days when I went away for a weekend. It went from simular to your scoly to absolte mush. That is when the ltp and acans looked worse quickly and I did a very quick 1/10 dilution peroxide/salt dip. Helped a ton for acans but my ltp needed a second dip the next day that I should have done. Waited one day too long and it turned into brown mush.
More pictures never hurts!
Best of luck!

Dip might end up on my treatment list, but for now i want to observe how the LPS react to the 'isolation'. Never seen an infection on LPS, but not sure it that. i feel there is a stress factor from the tank rather than infection... but i'm no expert.

ok, not the best follow-up picture, but i don't want to move them or disturb them while i keep investigating.
Acan and scoly seems better.

My scoly is not yet as open as in the past on picture it'S about 50-60% of it's full size, but seems on the right track. i see the tissue healing where i could see skeletal structur. i don't see it open during night period as in the past.

As for the acans, it has lost 1 large head and 1 small one, but the remaining is still ok. The colony seem to inflate 'normaly'.

For my Wellso, on the picture it seems a little inflated.. but this morning i could still see skeletal structure all around it's mouth.. so i still have to find the issue on it. i cleaned with a turkey baster to remove the red/brown sludge, probably a mix of zoox and other stuff. I feel it as stabilized but still in critical condition.

i can rule out the water parameter and light.

still on the list : flow, fish/invert. the hitchhicker crab.

Elementalj · Oct 31, 2016

I would have done the "basting" somewhere outside the tank, like I said. It really looks like necrosis and too much light. Blasting it off inside a container of dip would allow the anti-bac properties to reach the infected tissue with a slimmer chance of cross contamination. It's a step you're resisting, that's been proven to be most effective in treating tissue recession. Please take the advice and don't hesitate, they're too beautiful to lose because of the "what-if" factor.

Ljaus · Oct 31, 2016

Elementalj said:
I would have done the "basting" somewhere outside the tank, like I said. It really looks like necrosis and too much light. Blasting it off inside a container of dip would allow the anti-bac properties to reach the infected tissue with a slimmer chance of cross contamination. It's a step you're resisting, that's been proven to be most effective in treating tissue recession. Please take the advice and don't hesitate, they're too beautiful to lose because of the "what-if" factor.

+1

david p. · Oct 31, 2016

Elementalj said:
I would have done the "basting" somewhere outside the tank, like I said. It really looks like necrosis and too much light. Blasting it off inside a container of dip would allow the anti-bac properties to reach the infected tissue with a slimmer chance of cross contamination. It's a step you're resisting, that's been proven to be most effective in treating tissue recession. Please take the advice and don't hesitate, they're too beautiful to lose because of the "what-if" factor.

what dip do you recomend ?
i have the Revive coral dip.
In my first post for the Wellso, i try the dip, but did not seem to help.

as i wrote my previous post, the wellso deflated and expeled purple stuff.. looked like zoox that my kole tank ate in second!

Elementalj · Oct 31, 2016

Purple stuff isn't necessarily zooxanthella, sometimes it's just poop. This also isn't a single dip and your done kind of thing. For infection control I use Lugols and CoralRX. The revive has some antibacterial properties as well so get to dipping! And if you need good instructions search for coral dip in YouTube, there's a ton of how to vids specific to the product you've chosen. Matter of fact Dr. Sprung does a how to with that very product.

Good luck, and keep us posted!

_Alex_ · Oct 31, 2016

These are found under ledges and shaded areas. I think where you have it now is to much light. I would try a shaded area like the welso and see how they do.

palmer · Oct 31, 2016

make sure you are not running tank too clean- I have seen people run LPS tank too clean and get coral recess

david p. · Oct 31, 2016

_Alex_ said:
These are found under ledges and shaded areas. I think where you have it now is to much light. I would try a shaded area like the welso and see how they do.

i have cover for light on the fish trap, we dont see it well on picture, but it's not in top of tank with my radion cooking it! there is no direct light. they had more light on the bottom of tank.

palmer said:
make sure you are not running tank too clean- I have seen people run LPS tank too clean and get coral recess

i though about it, but with my LPS feeding regime (1xweek) + my SPS target feeding (2x week) they get what i believe enought food. but who know, i'm still looking for the answer. thks.. never carefull enought, any advice is worth investigating in my case

david p. · Oct 31, 2016

Elementalj said:
Purple stuff isn't necessarily zooxanthella, sometimes it's just poop. This also isn't a single dip and your done kind of thing. For infection control I use Lugols and CoralRX. The revive has some antibacterial properties as well so get to dipping! And if you need good instructions search for coral dip in YouTube, there's a ton of how to vids specific to the product you've chosen. Matter of fact Dr. Sprung does a how to with that very product.

Good luck, and keep us posted!

will look into the Lugol and CoralRX. thx

david p. · Nov 2, 2016

stopped by my LFS and got both product.
Will dip the Wellso tonight. you can see in the back, it remains mainly closed and skeleton is visible.

For the Scoly, here's how it was when i got back from work...I think this one is back on track. Either flow or a fish/invert was stressing it. almost at it's full size!! :)

david p. · Nov 4, 2016

I have a hole on my wellso, in my other post when my wellso 'crashed' some tole me it was a crab.
but, look at the 2 pictures, what could it be ?
first one, when i touch it it retracts to be like on the second picture.
ill try to get better picture.. it comes out better on my computer.

Elementalj · Nov 4, 2016

david p. said:
I have a hole on my wellso, in my other post when my wellso 'crashed' some tole me it was a crab.
but, look at the 2 pictures, what could it be ?
first one, when i touch it it retracts to be like on the second picture.
ill try to get better picture.. it comes out better on my computer.

That's looking like a tunicate. They're usually harmless but I could most definitely be wrong.