Two fish flashing, scratching in DT, help please?

[joec]

I have 3 fish in my DT. A Timor wrasse, TS Blenny and a pink streaked wrasse.

Each was quarantined, 30 day copper, two rounds of prazi 5-7 days apart, and 14 days Seachem focus and GC with food

The TSB flashed when I first put on QT in early August. I did a freshwater dip, it seemed to help and then after copper, I dosed prazi twice. I forgot to look for flukes in the container after treatment

In early February I noticed the TSB flashing/scratching in DT. The Timor was also in the DT. I dosed the DT staring 2/9, twice with Prazi. It seemed to resolve.

Over the past few days the TSB and now the Timor seemed to have started flashing/ scratching again. not a lot. No other obvious symptoms

I want to try to do a freshwater bath and confirm flukes, but I cannot catch these darn fish.

Is this likely prazi resistant flukes? They've each been treated twice with Prazi now

What is the best course of action here? Can the treatment be done in the DT??

 

[drstardust]

I would not treat in the DT. Prazi resistant flukes seem likely if your QT process was diligent. I would do a FW dip, remove them to a QT and treat with fenbendazole.

 

[4FordFamily]

I would not treat in the DT. Prazi resistant flukes seem likely if your QT process was diligent. I would do a FW dip, remove them to a QT and treat with fenbendazole.

Agree 100%.

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

I have 3 fish in my DT. A Timor wrasse, TS Blenny and a pink streaked wrasse.

Each was quarantined, 30 day copper, two rounds of prazi 5-7 days apart, and 14 days Seachem focus and GC with food

The TSB flashed when I first put on QT in early August. I did a freshwater dip, it seemed to help and then after copper, I dosed prazi twice. I forgot to look for flukes in the container after treatment

In early February I noticed the TSB flashing/scratching in DT. The Timor was also in the DT. I dosed the DT staring 2/9, twice with Prazi. It seemed to resolve.

Over the past few days the TSB and now the Timor seemed to have started flashing/ scratching again. not a lot.

I want to try to do a freshwater bath and confirm flukes, but I cannot catch these darn fish.

Is this likely prazi resistant flukes?

What is the best course of action here? Can the treatment be done in the DT??

I would catch them and do a 12 hour fenbendazole bath at 95mg gallon. I did mine in a 5G bucket. If the flashing continues you may have another issue.

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Agree 100%.

Man! You guys are fast!!!!

 

[joec]

I'm not having ay luck catching them so far.

After a fenbendazole bath, do they need to go into a sterile QT, or do I just remove the med with carbon, WC?

I also need to treat the pink streaked wrasse?


Where did you get fenbendazole?

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

I'm not having ay luck catching them so far.

After a fenbendazole bath, do they need to go into a sterile QT, or do I just remove the med with carbon, WC?

I also need to treat the pink streaked wrasse?


Where did you get fenbendazole?

I'm not having ay luck catching them so far.

After a fenbendazole bath, do they need to go into a sterile QT, or do I just remove the med with carbon, WC?

I also need to treat the pink streaked wrasse?


Where did you get fenbendazole?

All fish in that tank would need to be treated. I bought the Thomas Labs on Amazon. If it is flukes you’ll need to leave the DT fallow for 6 weeks I believe. I will warn you my wrasses continued to flash after fenbendazole and one died the next day. I had QT’ed mine in copper prior also but What I thought was flukes turned out to be velvet. I guess my copper regiment failed and they are back in copper without flashing now. Mine managed to carry velvet for 3 weeks before one succumbed to it. The only symptom I had was flashing also and the one that died only had heavy breathing at the end. Their slime coat allows them to carry many illnesses without showing too many symptoms

 

[joec]

This is all a bit overwhelming.

Do fish sometimes just scratch of rub on rocks occasionally when no disease is present? I think I'll try to catch the TSB first, do a FW bath and see if there are even any flukes present. They know what I'm up to at this point, so this is not going to be easy to catch them

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

This is all a bit overwhelming.

Do fish sometimes just scratch of rub on rocks occasionally when no disease is present? I think I'll try to catch the TSB first, do a FW bath and see if there are even any flukes present. They know what I'm up to at this point, so this is not going to be easy to catch them

Flashing is a behavior brought on typically by parasites or something irritating their skin or gills. Do the fenbendazole then transfer to a sterile tank and observe them if they keep flashing after a couple days you may need to look at your copper QT regiment. What copper did you use? What levels did you keep it at? How were you testing it?

Mine never showed a spot or anything other than flashing also until the one died.

 

[joec]

30 days copper power at 1.75, monitiored carefully with hanna copper checker

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

30 days copper power at 1.75, monitiored carefully with hanna copper checker

If your copper treatment was solid and never dipped below 1.50 or anything added during the treatment then I would do the fenbendazole

 

[joec]

If your copper treatment was solid and never dipped below 1.50 or anything added during the treatment then I would do the fenbendazole

That's what I will try to do. Petco has the fenbendazole

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

This was my bucket set up for the 12 hour bath

Make sure. To aerate heavily and do your best to get the fenbendazole dissolved it will take some work.

 

[joec]

Ok, well after an epic battle with my 2" TSB, I finally caught him and did a FWB. It looks like flukes came off him, tiny clear oval looking things. He's stressed as heck, but He's resting in a DIY critter cage acclimation box in the DT for easy transport to the next step

I ordered the fenbendazole. When I get that I'll remove the Timor and PSW, FWB, and treat all of them in a 7 G bucket per Frtdrmrose7

I had a sterile 10G already set up but I'm a little concerned about the bio load once I get them all in the sterile 10 G. The Timor is used to them at this point and pretty peaceful but he's quite a bit bigger than them but I hope he doesn't get aggressive with them in a 10G

 

[joec]

This was my bucket set up for the 12 hour bath

Make sure. To aerate heavily and do your best to get the fenbendazole dissolved it will take some work.

Did you use a PH and an airstone to aerate?

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Did you use a PH and an airstone to aerate?

I used the airstone for the full 12 hours the powerhead proved to be too much

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Ok, well after an epic battle with my 2" TSB, I finally caught him and did a FWB. It looks like flukes came off him, tiny clear oval looking things. He's stressed as heck, but He's resting in a DIY critter cage acclimation box in the DT for easy transport to the next step

I ordered the fenbendazole. When I get that I'll remove the Timor and PSW, FWB, and treat all of them in a 7 G bucket per Frtdrmrose7

I had a sterile 10G already set up but I'm a little concerned about the bio load once I get them all in the sterile 10 G. The Timor is used to them at this point and pretty peaceful but he's quite a bit bigger than them but I hope he doesn't get aggressive with them in a 10G

I was using a 10G for all three of my wrasses after transfer from the bucket. I did a 25% WC every four days though to be safe. I didn’t worry about the bio load because they would eat everything I put in and I would just use a net to remove fecies at night

 

[joec]

Is one 12 hour bath sufficient?

 

[Frtdrmrose7]

Is one 12 hour bath sufficient?

Yes, some have said second may be necessary 5-7 days later but from what I’ve read and heard from experts it should just be one. The benefit is that fenbendazole is really easy on fish.