What are these egg sac looking things on this fish???

[Spare time]

I have never seen this before. It looks like egg sacs growing on the puffer fish. This is bizarre. The fish is in copper power atm but if anyone has any clue what this is and how to treat it let me know. If you need the water parameters just ask, though I don't think that is necessary in this case other than the copper between 2-2.5ppm

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@Jay Hemdal

 

[MnFish1]

It LOOKS like lymphocystis a viral infection. If you have any more information about the fish, etc - you can check out the link below - on 'what questions to answer' to help us help you

 

[vetteguy53081]

Looks more like gram negative bacterial and needs to be treated in quarantine setting with use of seachem neoplex for 5-7 days. Add aeration during treatment and maintain water quality.

 

[Spare time]

I'm fairly confident it's not lympho due to the individual round bead looking things within some sort of sac. I saw another thread mentioning a bacterial infection. I think the fish will be wble to go in some anti biotic treatment tomorrow

 

[MnFish1]

I'm fairly confident it's not lympho due to the individual round bead looking things within some sort of sac. I saw another thread mentioning a bacterial infection. I think the fish will be wble to go in some anti biotic treatment tomorrow

An antibiotic will never (almost) - hurt - but to me this is not bacterial - but the plan is sound

 

[MnFish1]

For the rest of us - though - what are the signs of bacterial infection - gram positive or gram negative - I literally would have no clue how to answer this question

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I have never seen this before. It looks like egg sacs growing on the puffer fish. This is bizarre. The fish is in copper power atm but if anyone has any clue what this is and how to treat it let me know. If you need the water parameters just ask, though I don't think that is necessary in this case other than the copper between 2-2.5ppm

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@Jay Hemdal

Those are really odd looking. They aren’t silvery are they? Supersaturation can cause gas bubble disease.
Most bacterial infections are subtractive, not additive, that is, the bacteria eats away at tissue, and doesn’t make it larger like this. Look up “fish xenoma” - I’ve seen those cause round white growths, but never this many at once.
Jay

 

[Spare time]

Those are really odd looking. They aren’t silvery are they? Supersaturation can cause gas bubble disease.
Most bacterial infections are subtractive, not additive, that is, the bacteria eats away at tissue, and doesn’t make it larger like this. Look up “fish xenoma” - I’ve seen those cause round white growths, but never this many at once.
Jay

No not silvery. It seems like round white beads inside a sack.

 

[MnFish1]

edit - wrong thread

 

[MnFish1]

deleted - wrong thread

 

[Spare time]

I tried removering one but they are very squish and don't come off easily. There is one "flap of skin" on the outside of the fish that is a lump filled with this stuff (like a cave sticking out off the top of the fish filled with this stuff). I could squish it and the fish didn't seem to react as if it was in pain or anything from it. I removed some from there. You can see it as the big collection of it on the left in the 3rd pic

 

[Cell]

Could it be fungal?

 

[MnFish1]

It is extremely odd to me - as @Jay Hemdal said also - it could very well be a virus.

OR an injury - requiring antibiotics - which Is where I would start - as others have said

 

[Spare time]

Would you think neoplex or kanaplex would be better? The store its at has kanaplex, neoplex, metroplex, focus, prazi, copper (already in copper), I think sulfaplex and/or polyguard possibly but I'd need to double check, and paraguard.

 

[MnFish1]

Those are really odd looking. They aren’t silvery are they? Supersaturation can cause gas bubble disease.
Most bacterial infections are subtractive, not additive, that is, the bacteria eats away at tissue, and doesn’t make it larger like this. Look up “fish xenoma” - I’ve seen those cause round white growths, but never this many at once.
Jay

I really apologize - I answered - thinking I was answering another thread. I would still bet lymphocystis - or something untreatable. its the only thing that makes sense (to me) - if that fish had an anaerobic gas forming infection - or something else - it should not show up that way. I think its lymphocystis - Im not the expert though

 

[MnFish1]

IMHO - no matter what you do - I would put it in a QT tank
so you can medicate if needed.
He/She looks (to me) etremely odd.

 

[Spare time]

IMHO - no matter what you do - I would put it in a QT tank
so you can medicate if needed.
He/She looks (to me) etremely odd.

The plan is to move the fish to QT but the QT is currently occupied by fish being treated with prazi so we would need to stop their treatment for this or combine them (the most medicines I have used at once was 3 and it was copper plus the two in general cure; this is because I can't take these fish out of the copper system they are coming from bas they have no where else to go so its that or nothing unfortunately. The QT tank can be taken offline from the main system, but removing the copper is not allowed).

 

[MnFish1]

My recommendation - watch. - Or treat with broad spectrum antibiotics - which - woudl be for me 50:50. If its something serious - to me - its really serious. If its lymphocystis - it will go away

 

[MnFish1]

Dont combine IMHO. wait/watch. @Jay Hemdal will weigh in. Dont jeopardize the rest of your fish for 1. IMHO - this looks like severe / significant lymphocystis. How is the fish doing otherwise?

 

[Spare time]

My recommendation - watch. - Or treat with broad spectrum antibiotics - which - woudl be for me 50:50. If its something serious - to me - its really serious. If its lymphocystis - it will go away

I am fairly sure its not lympho since I see that all the time with fish and this isn't just the typical white puffs.