Thanks for the good insight! I am leaning toward the Hydros for a number of reason and one being I dont care for any programming and for years (i dont want to say any names), but Neptune apex seems to thinks too highly off themselves. Maybe I am wrong in my thinking but that is what they give off to me. I can honestly say I was hoping that ecotech would make a controller some day as that would be outstanding but given I trust their interface for pumps, lighting, and dosing I wouldnt want a apex which controlls everything like dosing, waterchanges(absurd), etc.
One add-on thing I am hoping this controller will help with is I may need to run a hot water heat exchanger for maintaining temperature since heating actual 600 gallon of water volume maybe a big issue so may need it to turn a pump on and off based on temp. I would need to add a fail safe on top of this incase controller stays on and for this I will need additional redundancy but not sure how unless there is a way to but my finnex controller on same outlet for pump incase the temp got too high. I've been using icecap ATO for 4 years and honestly its never failed once and alerts me whenever their is any issue with it. I hope the Hydros ATO would be of same reliability but with my luck anytime I try something that's suppose to be better it ends up being worst. For example, used a cheap inkbird temp controller for 4 years and it works like a charm, i figured I would get a finnex and it doesn't even read temp in digits and their 800watt heater doesn't even turn on - shouldve stuck with eheim jager heaters which never seem to fail. I feel me buying this controller to save money on ATO may come to bite me later - For me in this hobby trying to safe money or take a short cut comes back to bite my wallet