WHY DOES MY FROGSPAWN LOOK LIKE THIS?

[PeterB113]

Hey guys so ive noticed everynight around 7 or 8 pm my frogspawns always shrink up. I dont know if this is normal but it does this even before my lights ramp down for the night. Please let me know if this is normal or if i need to do something. I posted a pic of my light schedule and pic of the frogspawns open and closed. Pls help!! Thanks in advance.

 

[PeterB113]

Right on queue........ 6.30 and its starting to close up please helpp lol

 

[Jekyl]

They close up every night. Mine do it too.

 

[Ricksreeefs]

I mean if they look fine during the day then I think you should be fine but I’m not sure. ‍

 

[PeterB113]

They close up every night. Mine do it too.

I know they close at night but my lights are still on for another 4.5hrs... Is that normal? The ramp down starts at 930

 

[Jekyl]

I know they close at night but my lights are still on for another 4.5hrs... Is that normal? The ramp down starts at 930

Missed that part. What lights are you using? Maybe it's too intense for them

 

[Jekyl]

I run my lights 12 hours or so. 5 hours of that is peak. The rest of the time is a ramp up and down.

 

[PeterB113]

Missed that part. What lights are you using? Maybe it's too intense for them

AI PRIME 16HD heres my schedule. And my ramp up and down is only one hour. Meaning the light intensity and spectrum doesnt change but they still close early. Thats why im concerned because im thinking they should only start to close at 930 to 11 when it ramps down.

 

[Jekyl]

Possibly too much peak time?

 

[PeterB113]

Possibly too much peak time?

What kind of lights/schedule do you have?

 

[Jekyl]

I am using kessil 360we. 12 hours total. 5 hours of peak with a ramp up and down.

 

[PeterB113]

I am using kessil 360we. 12 hours total. 5 hours of peak with a ramp up and down.

I also run 12 hrs do u have any reccomendations on a light schedule. Ive made alot of posts about a custom AI prime schedule and havent had any luck. People either say my schedule is good or its all preferance.

 

[Aldrinlights]

How much overlap of lighting do you have on your refugium if you have one? There may be a slight PH swing happening if they come on a long time before your main lights begin to dim. Have you tried checking the PH during the day and then while they are shrinking?

 

[Jekyl]

I also run 12 hrs do u have any reccomendations on a light schedule. Ive made alot of posts about a custom AI prime schedule and havent had any luck. People either say my schedule is good or its all preferance.

It just seems like your peak is too long. 12 hours total is fine.

 

[vetteguy53081]

This has nothing to do with light peak but rather Ramping down. These coral are photosynthetic and therefore respond to UV strength and increase/reduction in lighting. One of the more important requirements for frogspawn is Placement. It is an overlooked element that contributes to the overall acclimation and sustainability of your frogspawn. Some hobbyists simply choose to, Put it where is looks best but to reduce the amount of strain on your specimen, you should ideally place it in an area of your tank similar to the area in which you found it when you purchased it or where there is moderate light.
Another consideration to account for during the placement of your coral is the amount of light it will be receiving. This decision should never be random; should never be haphazard. Although capable of doing quite well in a relatively large range of lighting levels, ideally, your Frogspawn Corals do best when provided a moderate amount of lighting, with many hobbyists finding success with an added bit, or partial, shading. Euphyllia (theyre a member of this group) do not enjoy direct high lighting. Keep in mind that the amount of lighting and the degree of water flow work hand-in-hand in sustaining healthy coral life and growth. Although technically capable of survival, frogspawn DO NOT appreciate high or even moderately high flow. They will open much bigger in gentle flow, and will be able to grow into those beautiful serene tendrils that you see swaying within your habitat. (see my pic below- this was a size of a quarter a year ago and now 6"x4")
I cannot overemphasize the incredible importance of both lighting as well as placement. Never, ever haphazardly place your corals, select your lighting, or randomly pair different specimens or species within a tank, and just hope for the best. Remember, like any coral, Frogspawn Coral requires a very specific amount of lighting, and in this case, it’s not a whole lot. Unlike many other corals, Frogspawn Corals don’t require a whole lot of lighting. They are also 100 PAR, but even levels as low as 50 PAR will work well for this beautiful species.
To ensure successful acclimation, growth, and just overall, general health, your Frogspawn Corals prefer a moderate to strong water flow within your habitat. Interestingly enough, you can control the growth .If you want to look for a more contract compacted look, a higher flow will help you to achieve that. If you want a more extended, sway appearance from your Frogspawn, a low to moderate flow. Aesthetically, what originally drew hobbyists to this coral was its ability to serenely sway in the currents.

Frogspawn are not the most aggressive eaters. Broadcast feeding is typically the easiest, most effective approach. Additionally, if there is too great a flow, or if there are fish in your habitat that are aggressively harassing them, they’re just not going to eat. Even if they are able to successfully get the food into their mouths, they often quickly spit it back out--quick enough where they may not even be digesting any of the food. By trying to directly feed, you are much more likely to develop an algae problem from uneaten food accumulating in your tank than you are to find success in direct feeding.
Follow these simple steps and let it take its' course. Theyre easy enough to meet the care needed and yes, they do shrink in the evening. One test- Increase your lighting a little once they shrink, and within the hour, you will see them puff up again.

 

[PeterB113]

How much overlap of lighting do you have on your refugium if you have one? There may be a slight PH swing happening if they come on a long time before your main lights begin to dim. Have you tried checking the PH during the day and then while they are shrinking?

I check all my parameters daily and ill check the ph to.m when there open right now its at 8.2 and i dont have a refugium or filter only heater 1 dc pump and a light