00W's AIO Smorgasbord

[Imrahilwjz]

Good morning Wes! How’s your daughter doing today?

 

[tharbin]

Tom, I appreciate the thoughtful response my friend. The fish were two fairy wrasse and a tailspot blenny. I still haven't seen the scooter blenny. Im wondering if I lost a turbo snail and haven't realized it. Ill have to check. I just thought about them.
Ill get a good water change in ASAP. Good point about the nitrites being an actual good sign overall. Do you think oxygenation and water changes will be the way to tackle a bloom like this?

The water changes and aeration will help. Bacterial blooms also have a bit of a lifetime. The bacterial bloom, in response to an event like a fish, large snail loss, creates a lot of havoc in the tank by depleting oxygen thus furthering the bloom and then as the original cause is consumed the bacteria start to starve and die off. The water changes help to reduce the bacterial load thus reducing the length and strength of the bloom and the aeration helps to keep the tank from going anerobic and increase the available oxygen for the remaining inhabitants.

I just saw @VintageReefer's response and I want to add a plus one on a heater controller. Heater failure is the most common cause of catastrophic tank events, although that doesn't seem to be the case this time. But how close is your tank temp to the ambient room temp? It is possible that the heater spiked, then burned out and the tank cooled to ambient plus a little for pumps, lights etc.

 

[Üter]

Good morning Paul! How were the kids treasure hunting?

Way too many people at the beach to treasure hunt!
That's a Mile of people left to right in panoramic view!

 

[VintageReefer]

Hey Andrew!! Sorry for that short message about the flatworms. I was going to post a longer message but one of my Veterans walked in, so I had to go work... I know right!
Do you have a wrasse in that tank? Lemon or Springeri damsels are flatworm eating machines as well

I have a mated pair of yellow (former) coris wrasses. They do peck when they find them and are very active always hunting

 

[kingranch2003]

What??????
Oh no John I just read this

You just went through it too buddy. It makes you feel like garbage bc you love these little creatures.

 

[kingranch2003]

I would agree

My system has a few stragglers. I’ve treated the tank twice with flatworm exit. When corals scrunch up, the flatworms sometimes get protected. I’m keeping an eye out to see if I need a third round

dang man, I’m so sorry to hear this. This is devastating!

There’s only so much that could do this. Main one being temperature

Most of the parameters we test are for corals and don’t affect fish

Nitrite? What about ammonia? If so probably from fish losses How many fish?
Next logical suggestion - a contaminant.

Any cleaning done near by? Something sprayed in the air? A new candle or “room freshener” spray like febreeze? Dusting spray ? Hands in tank after dishes, laundry, lotion, or anything that could leave a residue?

Any oil on the surface? Skimmer going nuts?

Did any corals die that could have decayed and polluted the water?

Heater seems not to have failed. One large fairy wrasse and a second one I can't find along with a tsb. Two Cardinals and a blue flag damsel have emerged alive! Scooter blenny is alive but weak. No dead corals either VR.

 

[kevgib67]

You look to young to be the father of 10 Wes. She’s precious!

 

[kingranch2003]

I'm serious about the Inkbird. I'll even order one from Amazon and have it sent to your house brother.

I appreciate that with everything in me brother, but I would just be taking advantage of your kindness. Dont you need the inkbird yourself? Ill be a good reefer and buy one like I shouldhavein the first place. I guess I should invest in that before restocking.

 

[kingranch2003]

I have a mated pair of yellow (former) coris wrasses. They do peck when they find them and are very active always hunting

Been meaning to ask how your coris pair was. I dont know if I've ever seen a pair like that. They look great on your reef

 

[Üter]

I appreciate that with everything in me brother, but I would just be taking advantage of your kindness. Dont you need the inkbird yourself? Ill be a good reefer and buy one like I shouldhavein the first place. I guess I should invest in that before restocking.

apparently I missed a big event here. sorry you lost fish. sounds like it was pretty quick. wouldn't have thought a bacterial bloom or deceased snail would cause that. no one sprayed something near the tank like floor cleaning spray etc...? Like I said I only saw a couple posts. you guys made many pages while we went to the beach.

 

[kingranch2003]

The water changes and aeration will help. Bacterial blooms also have a bit of a lifetime. The bacterial bloom, in response to an event like a fish, large snail loss, creates a lot of havoc in the tank by depleting oxygen thus furthering the bloom and then as the original cause is consumed the bacteria start to starve and die off. The water changes help to reduce the bacterial load thus reducing the length and strength of the bloom and the aeration helps to keep the tank from going anerobic and increase the available oxygen for the remaining inhabitants.

I just saw @VintageReefer's response and I want to add a plus one on a heater controller. Heater failure is the most common cause of catastrophic tank events, although that doesn't seem to be the case this time. But how close is your tank temp to the ambient room temp? It is possible that the heater spiked, then burned out and the tank cooled to ambient plus a little for pumps, lights etc.

Great thought here Tom. I do keep my house around 70 at night. I do suppose that could've happened but it would've only had a few hours of being off if that happened. The heater and temp were good when I checked it this morning. I added a second one just in case

 

[Üter]

OK, so, I saw a motorcycle cycle pull up a couple cars behind me today. looked odd.
Yup....Now I've come full circle and seen everything! I think he took my picture!

 

[00W]

I appreciate all of your help guys. Tim, Keith and Luis, I.wish you.guys could drive by and check it out. Head on over, I'll boil yall some shrimp or something.

I'll be there too

 

[kingranch2003]

Beautiful choices!

Thanks Amanda :)

 

[kingranch2003]

I'll be there too

 

[tbrown]

Heater seems not to have failed. One large fairy wrasse and a second one I can't find along with a tsb. Two Cardinals and a blue flag damsel have emerged alive! Scooter blenny is alive but weak. No dead corals either VR.

So you have 1 confirmed death and 2 MIA plus a weak Scooter?

 

[00W]

@kingranch2003
John-
I'm devastated for you my friend.
You have made this thread so special with your positive attitude and never ending wit, all the love you share and joy you bring all of us.
As you know this same thing happened to me last week .
From what I can tell, when I went to bed the night before, I noticed a bacterial bloom, water was milky white.
I didn't think anything about it, just noticed.
There was no surface agitation and once the lights went off, no more oxygen being made either.
That was the telltale sign for me of oxygen depletion, leading to the fish suffocating.
My corals were fine.
Parameters fine.
Salinity fine.
Nothing changed.
What caused the bloom I have no idea .
What I do know is I will always have a powerhead/return/something going at the surface from now on
I turn all the flow off for my mystery berghia at night but after this I have one small powerhead always on at the surface.
This couldn't have happened to a better guy and I'm truly sorry.

 

[tbrown]

I'd say aeration and water changes. Run carbon. Look for those 2 MIA and potential dead snails.

 

[Rocks reef]

I appreciate that with everything in me brother, but I would just be taking advantage of your kindness. Dont you need the inkbird yourself? Ill be a good reefer and buy one like I shouldhavein the first place. I guess I should invest in that before restocking.

Oh, I have one sir. I also have a spare one just in case and also a Ranco, which is a commercial grade controller.

 

[tbrown]

@kingranch2003
John-
I'm devastated for you my friend.
You have made this thread so special with your positive attitude and never ending wit, all the love you share and joy you bring all of us.
As you know this same thing happened to me last week .
From what I can tell, when I went to bed the night before, I noticed a bacterial bloom, water was milky white.
I didn't think anything about it, just noticed.
There was no surface agitation and once the lights went off, no more oxygen being made either.
That was the telltale sign for me of oxygen depletion, leading to the fish suffocating.
My corals were fine.
Parameters fine.
Salinity fine.
Nothing changed.
What caused the bloom I have no idea .
What I do know is I will always have a powerhead/return/something going at the surface from now on
I turn all the flow off for my mystery berghia at night but after this I have one small powerhead always on at the surface.
This couldn't have happened to a better guy and I'm truly sorry.

I keep an airstone or two in the sump running 24/7. It helps with pH and aeration (since I don't run a skimmer).