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Noah!
Remember what I was saying last night (post #781) about “COOL FISH”?
Now you’re talking about Mandarins? The ultimate “specialty feeder”?
Dude, there are sooooo many seasoned Reefers here to help you be successful and it’s like talking to a brick wall.
I tried to “un-watch“ this thread but I can’t help but to keep coming back to see what “today’s plan” is.
It like driving past a bad car crash. You just can’t “not look”!
looks like he just copied and pasted :p https://www.algaebarn.com/blog/captive-bred-fish/mandarin-dragonets-for-beginners/
 

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...and here I am probably taking mandarins and pipefish off the considerations for my sump macroalgae display (and system altogether) for now because I am not sure I can sustain a copepod population even in a linked 90-gallon display, 75-gallon mangrove lagoon, and 75-gallon sump with ~40-gallon macroalgae portion... I would like them, but I will not buy a fish with any strong likelihood of difficulty in maintenance. I do not want to buy a fish that will die from my lack of care. (Maybe I will consider after copepods are proven well-established and maintainable?) At this point, I will keep them off the plan to keep my system more simple and easier to configure.

I think all of these questions show the need for patience in this hobby and are confirmations to me that I should keep taking my time to do research before asking questions while also narrowing down very specific lists of needed equipment and stocking plans. So much changes for what is ideal with even seemingly small changes in tank size, dimensions, filtration and nutrient control methods, stocking choices and compatibility (size and aggression/predatorial considerations), corals, etc.

...I am fortunate, though, since I was first introduced to this hobby as an employed adult with disposable income.
 

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NOAH PLEASE READ THIS!!!!!

If you won’t give up on the mandarin thing, do yourself and the fish a favor and find a site that sells mandarins trained to eat thawed frozen food! Feed it twice a day! My oldest tank is my biocube running for about 6 years and I wouldn’t even try to get a mandarin to live in it because I’m afraid it’s going to starve to death! When I’m able to find and afford one that willingly eats frozen, that’s when I’ll finally have one. In my opinion they are the most beautiful fish in the hobby and I wanted one from when I started saltwater 8 years ago.
 

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The scooter blennies (any dragonet that isn’t a mandarin) and the psychedelic mandarin both are easy to train

a) you’ve never kept ANY saltwater fish. Nor have you ever tried to train a mandarin to eat prepared foods. You objectively have no grounds to say it’s “easy”

b) if it’s so easy, why do so many fish starve to death?

You need to stop telling yourself you know what you’re doing my friend. Get some experience first.

Edit: scooter blennies are not blennies. They are also dragonets. The title blenny for them is a misnomer in this hobby.
 
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a) you’ve never kept ANY saltwater fish. Nor have you ever tried to train a mandarin to eat prepared foods. You objectively have no grounds to say it’s “easy”

b) if it’s so easy, why do so many fish starve to death?

You need to stop telling yourself you know what you’re doing my friend. Get some experience first.

Edit: scooter blennies are not blennies. They are also dragonets. The title blenny for them is a misnomer in this hobby.
I know that the scooter blennies are dragonet. Also, if they came trained then they wouldn’t need any special effort to keep fed, I am not even getting one for a long while
 

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The scooter blennies (any dragonet that isn’t a mandarin) and the psychedelic mandarin both are easy to train
You've never kept ANY saltwater fish. and it sounds like you haven't researched scooter blennies as scooter blennys need a huge population of copepods and will not just live off of frozen foods you haven't even set up a saltwater tank yet and you want some difficult to keep fish? unless you can get one eating frozen which is very hard even then sometimes their appetite changes and stop eating please just pass on the fish bud.
 
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Even if it is trained to eat prepared it can revert back. They also need a pod population to balance their nutritional needs. Just leave the fish to ppl with bigger tanks and more experience. Like geez when I started I was pumped to have 2 healthy clowns and a Duncan that grew new heads...
 

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Unfortunately, he hasn't listened to anything anyone says, and in the end he's going to do what he wants and the fish are going to be the ones paying the price.

He thinks he's smarter than everyone else so he's right and we're all wrong and don't know what we're doing or talking about.
 
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