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Any opinions on what type of algae this is growing on my rocks and sand bed?

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If possible, could you press your phone camera flush against the glass and then try to take a closeup or pull some off and get a pic under white lighting?
 

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its 100% indicated since the sandbed will cloud massively if we reach in and drop test, and the rocks could be easily cleared externally, outside the water, sitting on the counter, with peroxide spray and some toothbrushing to clear this initial growth plugging up all the pores in the rock. its simply unideal to use any means of killing that rock algae, and letting it rot internally to compile with the current waste loading, we need mass export here- a reef storm.
 
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In the meantime.. are you interested in getting down to the bare bones of potentially a root cause or reason it has taken over your rock? Maybe we can find a long term fix catered for your system... We are here to help :)
 
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In the meantime.. are you interested in getting down to the bare bones of potentially a root cause or reason it has taken over your rock? Maybe we can find a long term fix catered for your system... We are here to help :)
I'm willing to do anything at this point
 

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I'm willing to do anything at this point
While we wait for a solid i.d... wanna go over your system, flow, nutrient levels (no3 and po4) wc schedule? Dosing? Lighting? White light %? CleanUp crew? Skimmer runnin? Refugium?

Just touching on some typical offenders in cases like yours. Maybe we can find a fix and once it's back under control ull have a long term grip on keepin it down from now on.
 
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this is standard eutrophication you'd be amazed at what test rocks, and some peroxide detailing would do for the rocks above. the sandbed having its waste removed, removes the cause too/resets your params back to what the bag of salt you use would be. here's work examples:


if you apply whats in that thread, you have no more algae. Resist the temptation to dose stuff to the water :) and begin the one thing missing this whole time: surgical disallowance of the target and not storing up detritus in rocks, and on sand. Dont think this has to do with params, uglies, or anything else. its pure allowance caused, and pure disallowance fixed. every inkling will drive you away from actual work, and into more waiting plus adjusting something, but that wont do

the opening line above is that fully invaded reefs are a matter of choice, not biology. lets test that tenet

unchoose this/easy. getting clean is just about resolve

the prevention of growback is all the detail steps and param changes and clean up crew balancing etc.

do not use fluconazole here, it will rob you of your will.
 
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While we wait for a solid i.d... wanna go over your system, flow, nutrient levels (no3 and po4) wc schedule? Dosing? Lighting? White light %? CleanUp crew? Skimmer runnin? Refugium?

Just touching on some typical offenders in cases like yours. Maybe we can find a fix and once it's back under control ull have a long term grip on keepin it down from now on.
RedSea Max E 170, Maxspect Gyre XF 230, NO3: 20, PO4: 0.19, Water Changes: try for every two weeks about 10-15 gallons, No dosing, Lighting Schedule included below, Skimmer is the stock skimmer in the back of the tank, No refugium

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its 100% indicated since the sandbed will cloud massively if we reach in and drop test, and the rocks could be easily cleared externally, outside the water, sitting on the counter, with peroxide spray and some toothbrushing to clear this initial growth plugging up all the pores in the rock. its simply unideal to use any means of killing that rock algae, and letting it rot internally to compile with the current waste loading, we need mass export here- a reef storm.

This is an of itself didn't "cure" my problem, but I believe it to be a NECESSARY starting point.
 
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I once had a poster use will to clear their whole tank in one pass, we linked that as first read in our thread to reward resolve.

three mos later since the first pass didnt fully remove their work for the life of the reef, they let it forest back up. had to remove link, it was one off resolve. we're full on
we work until we dont have to work, but we dont let lack of preventative steps keep the plants in the dominant position.

now that a fix has been posted, we simply sit back and wait for pics showing a clean system. no param is the issue here, we dont even use accurate testing in the hobby to be able to answer a param question.

do all measures, steps, new approaches, in the clean uninvaded no cloud bed condition or the will to take command w be lost forever, and this is the easy invasion to beat. many worse ones will take over next round, if detritus filth is left in place. adjusting params cannot remove detritus waste or unplug rocks currently plugged.
 
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I once had a poster use will to clear their whole tank in one pass, we linked that as first read in our thread to reward resolve.

three mos later since the first pass didnt fully remove their work for the life of the reef, they let it forest back up. had to remove link, it was one off resolve. we're full on
we work until we dont have to work, but we dont let lack of preventative steps keep the plants in the dominant position.
So first remove sand and then move on to the rock
 

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no the thread shows very different order of ops. we'd test rock first, then when proofed, clean the sand per that sub linked thread
 

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This is algae that should be easily reduced with liquid vibrant.
Other option would be a combo of : Conch snails, turbo snails, astrea snails and trochus snails. Also a sea Hare should mow this right down
 
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