Thank you! Sincerely hoping this try goes much better and I can leave all of that in the past!GL. I tried to keep up with your last thread it was heart breaking.
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Thank you! Sincerely hoping this try goes much better and I can leave all of that in the past!GL. I tried to keep up with your last thread it was heart breaking.
I hope so too. You did a ton of work. You're getting real live rock. I'm going to love to see the surprisesThank you! Sincerely hoping this try goes much better and I can leave all of that in the past!
Regarding the cryptic refugium concept, I'm no expert. However, I decided to convert my standard refugium into an anemone display tank in my sump. I was a little worried about what that would do to my nutrient exporting, so I put several bags of ceramic bio-spheres (link below) in my sump in a moderate flow area---my own version of a cryptic refugium. (The bags are piled on top of each other so some of them get less flow I suppose.). Even though I have plenty of porous rock and sand in my DT, I figured the spheres in my dark sump would be a great habitat for pods and obviously bacteria. Well, my nutrient levels plummeted fast and far (too much so!) and my pod populations exploded. Once I reduced my water change volume and frequency, I got back to acceptable nutrient levels without the need to specially dose any nutrients. So, short story, seems like my sort-of cryptic refugium is working great---and couldn't be simpler.Good idea, I’ll just dump it in directly after I add the sand and rock. Thanks!
Haha, no, I certainly wasn’t. I’m determined to get every single bit of contaminated something out of this system. All new plumbing, no reused rock or sand. The only thing staying is the equipment. Otherwise, it’s all bye bye!!
I also removed my chaetomaxx grow light, cooling fan, and heater. We keep the house at 75 during the evening and night, then 77 during the day, and I haven’t had to run the fan or heater in forever. Tank stays between 76 and 78, usually, so I’m good with that.
Any advice on potentially running a cryptic refugium? I am super interested in getting one started with any live rock I either can’t fit or don’t want in my display, but I’m having trouble finding much info on how to get one started aside from removing light and adding rock.
Do you have any sponges growing? I really would like to go that route to help with nutrient export. I know chaeto is one way to go, but I’ve seen a lot of controversy over whether or not it actually helps.Regarding the cryptic refugium concept, I'm no expert. However, I decided to convert my standard refugium into an anemone display tank in my sump. I was a little worried about what that would do to my nutrient exporting, so I put several bags of ceramic bio-spheres (link below) in my sump in a moderate flow area---my own version of a cryptic refugium. (The bags are piled on top of each other so some of them get less flow I suppose.). Even though I have plenty of porous rock and sand in my DT, I figured the spheres in my dark sump would be a great habitat for pods and obviously bacteria. Well, my nutrient levels plummeted fast and far (too much so!) and my pod populations exploded. Once I reduced my water change volume and frequency, I got back to acceptable nutrient levels without the need to specially dose any nutrients. So, short story, seems like my sort-of cryptic refugium is working great---and couldn't be simpler.
Thank you!! The primary reason I would like a cryptic refugium is to help with nutrient export considering I feed heavy for my 5 LPS.I’ve run a cryptic zone for years. I don’t know if it does anything but it’s cool. It takes a long time to get it going as sponges grow slow. KZ sponge additive is really good.
gulf rock is great. Lots of die off over time. If you hear clicking, you have a mantis shrimp btw. He will kill your fish.
Glad you figured out your problem too
I like all of it. If you get sponges to grow in a cryptic zone, drop some riods there once a week. Not a lot. I love my chaeto. It has its way to help water quality. I have issues getting phosphates to show up with my algae, however. I am having a difficult time with growing my cryptic zone. My old aquarium had a very large cryptic zone, it was full of life. I dropped food there once a week for the other animals.Do you have any sponges growing? I really would like to go that route to help with nutrient export. I know chaeto is one way to go, but I’ve seen a lot of controversy over whether or not it actually helps.
It's the blue legged pistol who can cause a lot of issues.I already have two pistols and they click and snap a lot, but I guess I will probably hear the difference.
I don't have sponges growing in my cryptic zone that I know about. Speaking of sponges, we have a discussion going in another thread about them. I used to think sponges were a sign of a healthy aquarium and great for helping clear the water. However, vetteguy53081 and I were helping another guy a couple weeks ago with sponges and he said sponges could be toxic. He posted this link:Do you have any sponges growing? I really would like to go that route to help with nutrient export. I know chaeto is one way to go, but I’ve seen a lot of controversy over whether or not it actually helps.
I’ve seen that article, but as always, there’s another to contradict it, and just the same for the chaeto!I don't have sponges growing in my cryptic zone that I know about. Speaking of sponges, we have a discussion going in another thread about them. I used to think sponges were a sign of a healthy aquarium and great for helping clear the water. However, vetteguy53081 and I were helping another guy a couple weeks ago with sponges and he said sponges could be toxic. He posted this link:
Anyway, I had one yellow sponge growing in a dark, high flow area of my DT that I scraped off and netted out after reading this. I'm not worried about tiny ones that I can't see inside my rocks, etc. but I'm not going to let big ones grow anymore.Five Reasons Sponges Are BAD For A Coral Reef Aquarium | Reef Builders | The Reef and Saltwater Aquarium Blog
Sponges are some of the most remarkable life forms that we can encounter in the ocean. These resilient and diverse ‘creatures’ are not quite single celled, not quite organisms, but colonies of single…reefbuilders.com
Regarding chaeto, I'm curious what you saw that was controversial about it. IME, it works great if it's part of a properly "tuned" nutrient export program. If you're nutrients are usually at a good level and you add chaeto but don't change anything about your export program, you're going to strip nutrients too low---that's a common problem people have. It's also great habitat for pods, but so's a cryptic zone.
Aiyaiyai, well, hopefully that’s not the case with my system this coming week! We had a death in the family, so I will be out for about 5 days next week. Very unexpected, or I wouldn’t have planned things this way.I'll also point out something thats going to be very important that im sure will be overlooked.
You will be fine for first week or 2 but be sure to monitor your ph, alk, cal and mag. Alot of reefers(myself included) overlook this fact. Your rock will be covered in critters and algae that use these elements up in quick fashion so your going to want to make sure you keep these params in check right out of the gate to ensure proper cycle and curing process.
In just 10 days my new tank used 80ppm mag, 50 cal and 1dkh a day. Dont be blindsided and let it creep up on you.
Ain't that the truth!I’ve seen that article, but as always, there’s another to contradict it, and just the same for the chaeto!
Darn the wealth of information available to us these days! You can never figure out what to believe, haha
Hmm thats probably not good. 5 days out of water will cause tons of die off.Aiyaiyai, well, hopefully that’s not the case with my system this coming week! We had a death in the family, so I will be out for about 5 days next week. Very unexpected, or I wouldn’t have planned things this way.
Oh well, I’ll do a big water change on Sunday and I’ll also look into some dosing options just to get me by until I can really get into the fine tuning of it all.
Thank you so much for the info!
Oh no, you misunderstand me. I meant I’ll be gone for 5 days, but the rock and sand are already in my tank and all is well. I just won’t be able to monitor the parameters while I’m gone.Hmm thats probably not good. 5 days out of water will cause tons of die off.
Can you postpone delivery?
Really would be better in your tank with at least a heater
Nice!Received my rock and sand today!
Beautiful rock, very stinky sand, haha. All is in the tank and I’m waiting for the water to clear so I can post some photos. I have some filter floss rubber banded to the return hose, so hopefully that clears things up a little bit more quickly! Keeping my skimmer off until the water clears, then it’s onward from there!!
I found a bunch of these critters in the box and hanging off one of the rocks. I am pretty sure the blackish one is a bristle worm, but somebody please tell me that the red one is not a fire worm? There are a bunch of the red ones, so if it is, I’m going to have my hands full…… haha