Are we just dosing anything ?

[Heres_doe_]

Ok here’s a quick topic I want answers too. Putting anything in your tank and you not knowing what it actually is and how it benefits your tank. Amino acids? Bacteria? What bacteria are the ones we actually want? Do you know which are which? Highly doubt it. Things of that nature. We’re just adding anything to our tanks because someone said so and that it works. What happens if the tank just matured a bit. Lots of anecdotal evidence that’s all. When companies say proprietary blends why can’t they be transparent? I stopped putting anything into my tank that idk what it actually is. I don’t care what they say it is I want to know what it really is.

 

[ColorMeGone]

I dose 2ml a week of Fuel from Seachem. Does it work? IDK but everybody is happy. lol

 

[exnisstech]

When companies say proprietary blends why can’t they be transparent?

JMO Because they wouldn't make a profit if they did or someone would sell a product with the same ingredients for less.

 

[Jamie814]

I agree with your statement to take everything printed on a bottle with a grain of salt. However,

When companies say proprietary blends why can’t they be transparent?

To protect intellectual property.

If you just created a product that solved an issue and could make you rich, would you want everyone else to know the formula do it as well?

It's like the get rich gurus selling you a system they use to get rich selling products on amazon. Think about the logic, if they are getting rich selling these products why in the world would they want to teach everyone else how to do the same creating their own competition and taking profits away from themselves???

 

[Heres_doe_]

JMO Because they wouldn't make a profit if they did or someone would sell a product with the same ingredients for less.

You really think they’re the only ones with this ingredient lol. They aren’t being transparent.

 

[GARRIGA]

If we really want to mimic nature then lets dose pollutants because sadly that's where nature is today but that's another topic

 

[Heres_doe_]

I agree with your statement to take everything printed on a bottle with a grain of salt. However,

To protect intellectual property.

If you just created a product that solved an issue and could make you rich, would you want everyone else to know the formula do it as well?

If you’re actually better than the competition and truthful with the clients and provide great customer service you think people would just leave you for the next company? This isn’t something they dug up from the middle of narnia. I feel like they aren’t transparent so we don’t do some research and stop using it.

 

[Heres_doe_]

If we really want to mimic nature then lets dose pollutants because sadly that's where nature is today but that's another topic

And then we’ll have a dead reef just like real life

 

[GARRIGA]

And then we’ll have a dead reef just like real life

Not necessarily... depends on volume dosed. Lots of reefs near populations therefore runoff does affect it and yet somehow it finds a way to survive. Everything in moderation and perhaps why what is dosed not as important as to what degree that dosage affects water parameters. Can dose copper and see no ill affects yet at some point it will kill inverts. Know this because copper naturally exists in NSW.

Perhaps the question should be will new technology such as ICP-MS inform us that being dosed contains something detrimental considering in most cases no clue what really is being dosed due to so called proprietary blends. Assuming that included in proprietary is being tested.

Lots of unknowns. Best solution might be don't dose unless purity known. DIY everything, if possible.

 

[Jamie814]

If you’re actually better than the competition and truthful with the clients and provide great customer service you think people would just leave you for the next company?

If it's cheaper and works just as well yes. If company B copies company A's product they will start pulling sales and profits from Company A - from existing and making it harder to acquire new customers.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

don’t care what they say it is I want to know what it really is.

That’s a fine sentiment, but it’s going to go unfulfilled in many cases.

To some extent, using a company’s products involves trust. If you don’t trust them, don’t use them. That’s how I treat it, and many companies don’t make the grade.

 

[rishma]

in general I am hesitant to dose things if I don’t know exactly what it is, but I have made exceptions for companies I trust. I use NP Bacto Balance from tropic Marin. I have been very pleased with the product, I can measure the the impact, but but I don’t know exactly what’s in it.

 

[cilyjr]

If you just created a product that solved an issue and could make you rich, would you want everyone else to know the formula do it as well?

This ain't the hobby to get rich on.

I have a friend that I joke with about our "thousandaire ideas" because maybe you could make a grand. Lol

 

[X-37B]

Only thing I dose that I don't know what's in it is KZ Flatworm stop. It smells like vinegar, lol. I don't use it for flatworms. I have used it for going on 8 years now on and off.
It appears to help strengthen coral from my observation over time.
Does it actually strengthen corals, I don't know.
I started running it about 2 months ago when I had 3 coral frags that looked like stn on the base. They have all grown back over the stn area. Did the KZ FWS fix the issue? I could not tell you one way or the other. However, I have over a period of years observed the same with other corals with what appeared to be the same type of stn.
I run it for a 6 month period and then stop.