So in other words, {insert any FB group}I am also irritated by questions that have been already answered because the person jumped in at the end rather than do a little reading to catch up.
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So in other words, {insert any FB group}I am also irritated by questions that have been already answered because the person jumped in at the end rather than do a little reading to catch up.
Someone in the hobby for years that works post retirement at a LFS told me a simple yet profound thing when I was stressing about my tank:Since this seems to have divulged into a thread dedicated to ranting about the hobby, I'd like to say that I feel like every thread on here ends up with a consensus that a tank is doomed to fail if it doesn't have:
250 gallon display
100 gallon sump
100 gallon refugium (even with all of this it's just not enough to host a Mandarin. Maybe if you had 3x this much water volume!)
All of the ATI T5 lighting
12 Ecotech powerheads...that should at least give you moderate flow
All of the Hanna checkers.
The list goes on and on.
Someone in the hobby for years that works post retirement at a LFS told me a simple yet profound thing when I was stressing about my tank:
"It doesn't matter if you have a 30g or 250g tank, you are still trying to replicate the OCEAN in a tiny box. Things will go wrong."
I agree - mix of lazy and clueless. When you are new; 1) it can be difficult to determine the correct query and 2) you worry if the previous information is no longer relevant (e.g. due to technology updates, etc.)I usually try not to get too irritated by this. I've come to grips with the fact that a HUGE number of people completely suck at searching for things for whatever reason. They're not lazy, just clueless in many cases.
+1 EXACTLY- how are you suppose to determine the care requirements? I'm surprised that doesn't garner less sales instead of more.Yup. This was the biggest surprise I had after being out of the reefing game for a decade. I come back, and corals are arbitrarily being named after comic book heroes. What the he(ck) is a 'spiderman' frag? Last weekend, I picked up a nice, orange Leptoseris frag that, apparently, is widely known as 'Jack-0-lantern'. A decade back, we _attempted_ to give correct names for our corals... no, we were not always accurate, but some attempt was made. Yeah, I once bought a montipora that was actually heliopora... but it was an honest mistake. How, exactly, do you look up care requirements for 'superman' coral, anyway?
If we all make an effort to call out the real name, it could be the first thing people see coming into the hobby and become the norm. Easier to remember of that's what everyone is saying!Yep, I'll often have scientific names I give be totally ignored because they want to know its "real name"
That IS its real name! Not the gimmicky nickname of why you think it's worth 5x as much. That may be the reason some of us actually use them, because we started before there were so many useless names and that's all they're known by unless you go out of your way to study them. I agree with ws6kid, there's just enough people using correct terms that the only way they aren't used more is if they're completely ignored, which is a little insulting. Anyway, back to the thread.
Oops, beat to the punch line!
However, @AcroNem does have a valid point that "pedal" comes from Latin, and the tanslation DOES mean "foot":
pedālis m, f (neuter pedāle); third declension
- foot (attributive)
- measuring a foot
See, as I stated I think we need more scientific names. So that the rest of us actually know what the heck someone is talking about. Too generalized wording is just making things worse, as I and another have already mentioned. If they say "this LPS I have" actually makes no sense, or even "this (insert common name here)" still doesn't work. So working at learning correct scientific names or at least the Genera of what you're talking about makes things a lot easier in the long run.
LOLCan anyone tell me what's on this fish/coral..
And honestly it can be daunting hobby when starting off. Newbies should ask questions. And lets not forget that searching will often return dubious or simply incorrect results.I agree - mix of lazy and clueless. When you are new; 1) it can be difficult to determine the correct query and 2) you worry if the previous information is no longer relevant (e.g. due to technology updates, etc.)
It might be easier in the long run if scientists stopped changing the genus all the time for example acans are now micromussa plus there are loads more.
How, exactly, do you look up care requirements for 'superman' coral, anyway?
Velvet and AEFW, you should just break it down.Can anyone tell me what's on this fish/coral..