Biocube-> 40 breeder upgrade!

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I inherited this 40 gallon tank, protein skimmer, and sump from a retiring reefer, so I thought I'd upgrade my 32 gallon biocube to the 40 gallon + ~30 gallon sump! After a full day of work transferring rock and livestock, I finally arrived at the following results:
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Here's the left side of the tank, which is lit by a blackbox LED (Which I plan to be the "higher light" side of my tank, though right now it's turned down extremely low)
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-The right side of the tank, lit by an Orbit Marine IC Loop, which will probably be a "lower light" side of my tank if I can help it)

I couldn't really afford to get matching lights, so I worked with what I have. I'm probably going to have to mount both lights a bit higher off the tank since there is a bit of a dark spot in the middle of the tank, but I thought it's better than nothing.

Using the advice from @brandon429, I rinsed the caribsea ocean direct sand to help with cloudiness, which helped a ton, but I don't think I rinsed enough since I did have a bit of cloudiness when I first put the sand in, but that went away the next morning.

Also, I rinsed the rock out in old saltwater, which I can only offer visual results for at the moment. Nothing was knocked up when I placed the rock in the tank, which is always good to see. I'll be testing for ammonia every day for the next few days and I'll post the results here.

Brandon also mentioned that I could add livestock immediately, and since it was easier to transfer my rock and livestock all in one swoop, that's what I did. I used all new saltwater for the tank, but still took time to acclimate everything before putting it all in.

So far, everything looks good! All my corals (even my acros!) opened up again that night, and nothing looks like it's doing poorly as of this morning. I fed my dendro some masstick, which it took just as it normally would! Same with my acanthophyllia, which is sometimes pretty weird about the food it eats.

The only issue I can see is a minor dino patch on the right side of the tank, but all my levels are within an acceptable range so I'm sure it'll subside in the next few days.

Now onto the sump:
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I have 2 ~200W heaters, a Jebao 4000 DCP return pump, some scattered marine pure balls, and the Current Fission skimmer I inherited (of course, it won't be of much use yet because the fish have literally JUST been added to the tank.

I also put some chaeto that I got as a hitchhiker that's been growing slowly and steadily for a few months, along with a rock full of xenia and cluster dusters in the refugium, which is lit by a PAR38 bulb courtesy of @SMSREEF . Because I only have 2 fish in the tank, I doubt I need any more chaeto, and I can just let it grow out for a while from that small chunk.

The aquascape is the next thing I'll be working on, since I have a little foundation rock I'd like to add in, and I'd like to add some layers and dimension to the aquascape (I know I'm supposed to do that first and all, but it wasn't possible because of how my transfer was working out.


That's all the news for this tank as of now, but I'll certainly update you guys as the tank progresses
 
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I will link this promptly to our microbiology of cycling thread under a new subsection one page one under tank moves and upgrades, well done, well done so clear such a controlled/ deliberate start thank you for posting
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well done, you're linked here


breakdown of your system transfer/blend based on pic details:

you have no free ammonia or things wouldnt look so bright

you have no source for free ammonia; minor transient clouding as silt fraction of new sand isn't harmful its cosmetic + gone, nice pre rinse.

the open corals/too sensitive to open in free ammonia water. even if a tester claimed some free ammonia, we can see biologically thats not the case and the tester would be wrong.

your clownfish, in the lower oxygen areas of the tank. when in gill distress, they hover at the top. we can rule out aerotaxis from lack of o2 or ammonia burning by seeing your fish happy in the current.

what you did is how about 95% of reef convention reefs are started. the rest are bottle bac demos. that helps to see how reliable cloud free relocation can be, you sure documented it well!

all you did was remove the waste stores that constitute old tank syndrome

some worms might have been lost, thats the price of a cloudless transfer and more will replace them since your live rock housing the new ones didnt get ammonia burnt.


running a super clean reef isn't where the fun is

its feeding strong now that spaces are open, ready for waste cycling that can be cleaned one day since skip cycle cleaning is doable, infinitely until your reef is very old

since your reef is so clean, it can eat better than ever without algae as a conseq

your reef is entering a positive coral mass condition relative to steady-state due to cleanliness, time to feed it like a bodybuilder, you've made way for all the weight to pack in

what you caused here can be used to beat cyano issues; having a clean reef does address the cause. your N and P is balanced because its related now more to mix water levels than leaky waste reserves.
 
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The tank and sump are looking good!
Thank you! I'm sure once I get all the corals onto the rock it'll start to look more like a typical reef- for the sake of light acclamation I decided to set them all on the sandbed for a while. I took a picture from above, which made me laugh because even my corals are social distancing!

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well done, you're linked here


breakdown of your system transfer/blend based on pic details:

you have no free ammonia or things wouldnt look so bright

you have no source for free ammonia; minor transient clouding as silt fraction of new sand isn't harmful its cosmetic + gone, nice pre rinse.

the open corals/too sensitive to open in free ammonia water. even if a tester claimed some free ammonia, we can see biologically thats not the case and the tester would be wrong.

your clownfish, in the lower oxygen areas of the tank. when in gill distress, they hover at the top. we can rule out aerotaxis from lack of o2 or ammonia burning by seeing your fish happy in the current.

what you did is how about 95% of reef convention reefs are started. the rest are bottle bac demos. that helps to see how reliable cloud free relocation can be, you sure documented it well!

all you did was remove the waste stores that constitute old tank syndrome

some worms might have been lost, thats the price of a cloudless transfer and more will replace them since your live rock housing the new ones didnt get ammonia burnt.


running a super clean reef isn't where the fun is

its feeding strong now that spaces are open, ready for waste cycling that can be cleaned one day since skip cycle cleaning is doable, infinitely until your reef is very old

since your reef is so clean, it can eat better than ever without algae as a conseq

your reef is entering a positive coral mass condition relative to steady-state due to cleanliness, time to feed it like a bodybuilder, you've made way for all the weight to pack in

what you caused here can be used to beat cyano issues; having a clean reef does address the cause. your N and P is balanced because its related now more to mix water levels than leaky waste reserves.
I did forget to mention that I used a full bottle of turbo start because I was a bit weary of starting such a clean tank. Either way, I do attribute most of the success to your method, since bottled bac doesn't claim to skip a cycle.
 

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Thank you! I'm sure once I get all the corals onto the rock it'll start to look more like a typical reef- for the sake of light acclamation I decided to set them all on the sandbed for a while. I took a picture from above, which made me laugh because even my corals are social distancing!

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Lol, All they need are cute little masks:D
 
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Minor update:

Filter sock overflowed for the first time today- I was shocked to see it seeing as the tank is so new, but I guess that means it's doing its job.

Also, here's my new rockscape, with a new rock (can you point out which one is the new one? I didn't rinse all the sediment off, unfortunately, which led to quite a bit of clouding in the water, which you can see below. Tell me what you guys think about the aquascape, and if you guys like it, I'll start putting frag plugs up on the rocks. I'm also anticipating a phosphate spike due to the new rock, so I'm gonna add a bit more phosguard today.

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Not so much a tank update as much as it's a coral update but boy is it a good one:

Alright so I'll start with the first coral I ever got, which is a blasto. Here it was almost 2 years ago:
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And here it is as of a few days ago:
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It went from 1 head that was around the size of a quarter to 1 head about the size of a golf ball, which then slowly shrank down back to the size of a quarter in the first year. , which I thought was dying. However, over the course of this past year, it has sprouted about 20 new heads all around the perimeter of the first. It's starting to look like a mini colony!

Next up is the one I'm most proud of. I got this fungia frag at Fragtoberfest in 2018 (so it's also coming up on 2 years. Baby corals don't always have the best survival rates, but it was being sold for $5 so I thought I would throw the dice. Over the course of the past 2 years, it has increased from the size of a dime to a little larger than the size of a quarter!
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This is my thrid fungia/cycloseris coral, but the first one I've nursed since a baby.

I also got this acan about 2 years ago, which has sprouted about 4 new heads around the base of the original polyp, which has surprisingly outcompeted some GSP on the frag plug that I thought would be an issue:
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I also got this turbinaria coral, which is another personal favorite. It started with around 10 heads, and after 2 years, it has a total of around 30 all around the perimeter of the colony, and is well on its way to forming the usual cup shape.
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I also have a duncan that has sprouted 6 nearly fully grown heads (which is expected for established duncans) but I don't have a picture of it on hand at the moment. I'll probably include it in my next post, which will be about the extreme color changes of certain corals I've had in my tank for a bit. It went from a tan color to a teal/green color. I also have a cycloseris coral that went from a sunflower-ish color to a rich orange.

That's it for this update! I hope I'll be able to include some pics of the color changes in my next post, though I bet it'll only be the two mentioned above :p

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