Birdsnest tip damage

AFHokie

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 27, 2022
Messages
493
Reaction score
516
Location
Virginia
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Looking for some advice on a sudden problem I noticed on my Birdsnest frag. I’ve had it about 6 weeks and it’s been doing great. Good growth, better coloration and great polyp extension. About a week ago I moved it from its temp spot to where I wanted it long term. About same height, just from side to center under light. I watched for any changes due to the lighting difference and saw nothing unusual. I don’t have a PAR meter but I use Photone and it reads about 150 where the Birdsnest is now. It’s under an XR15 at around 70% schedule, ramping up to 80% so I don’t think it’s bleaching from too much light.
My current problem actually started on my Xenia way at the bottom. I noticed it was looking rough and saw it had some stringy brown “stuff” all over it. I basted it off and it was fine a little later. Thought at the time it was some sloughing or some other weird phenomenon related to the xenia itself. Then yesterday I saw the same brown crap on my Birdsnest, way up on its rock. I blew it off as well and saw that besides just being stuck on it, it seemed to be attached at a couple of the tips. Those tips in particular more white than what it had been showing with new growth. Later in the day, more brown crap and then I saw it on the top of my highest rocks and a couple other spots. It isn’t thick or everywhere, but just here and there. I started worrying about dinos.
Came home today from work and Birdsnest was covered again and even more tissue recession on the tips. Based on my research I snipped off a little bit of the affected tips and made sure to clear as much of the brown stuff as possible. Now it’s wait and see what tomorrow holds. I couldn’t easily remove the frag without breaking it at the bottom so I’ll save that for if it continues to worsen.
One of my questions is was the coral already damaged and algae grew or did the algae get blown from the rock and cause the damage? I was in the tank doing a lot of stuff this past weekend with all my new frags from the WWC sale. I could have scraped the tips with my hand in there. It’s new spot is further from the power head it was in front of so maybe less flow is contributing?

Parameters have been stable. Tested all tonight:
1.026
KH: 9.4
Ca:415
Mg:1290
NO3: 5-10
PO4: 0.04 (Hanna)

Unfortunately in my panic to baste everything off I didn’t get the brown algae pics but here’s the Birdsnest before I snipped the tips. Top right tip was the worst
21666A02-CE40-45A3-8593-BFE330CCDD89.jpeg
 
OP
OP
AFHokie

AFHokie

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 27, 2022
Messages
493
Reaction score
516
Location
Virginia
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Algae shouldn’t grow on healthy coral tissue
Agree, but if whatever this is algae/dinos, got blown onto it from the rock surface beside it and caught on the coral would it cause damage that fast? I’m thinking if so it would be damaged all over, not just the tips. Either I damaged the tissue reaching in or the location change caused the tissue to recede or start bleaching?
 

Divemaster561

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
May 30, 2022
Messages
44
Reaction score
79
Location
Hobe sound
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Looking for some advice on a sudden problem I noticed on my Birdsnest frag. I’ve had it about 6 weeks and it’s been doing great. Good growth, better coloration and great polyp extension. About a week ago I moved it from its temp spot to where I wanted it long term. About same height, just from side to center under light. I watched for any changes due to the lighting difference and saw nothing unusual. I don’t have a PAR meter but I use Photone and it reads about 150 where the Birdsnest is now. It’s under an XR15 at around 70% schedule, ramping up to 80% so I don’t think it’s bleaching from too much light.
My current problem actually started on my Xenia way at the bottom. I noticed it was looking rough and saw it had some stringy brown “stuff” all over it. I basted it off and it was fine a little later. Thought at the time it was some sloughing or some other weird phenomenon related to the xenia itself. Then yesterday I saw the same brown crap on my Birdsnest, way up on its rock. I blew it off as well and saw that besides just being stuck on it, it seemed to be attached at a couple of the tips. Those tips in particular more white than what it had been showing with new growth. Later in the day, more brown crap and then I saw it on the top of my highest rocks and a couple other spots. It isn’t thick or everywhere, but just here and there. I started worrying about dinos.
Came home today from work and Birdsnest was covered again and even more tissue recession on the tips. Based on my research I snipped off a little bit of the affected tips and made sure to clear as much of the brown stuff as possible. Now it’s wait and see what tomorrow holds. I couldn’t easily remove the frag without breaking it at the bottom so I’ll save that for if it continues to worsen.
One of my questions is was the coral already damaged and algae grew or did the algae get blown from the rock and cause the damage? I was in the tank doing a lot of stuff this past weekend with all my new frags from the WWC sale. I could have scraped the tips with my hand in there. It’s new spot is further from the power head it was in front of so maybe less flow is contributing?

Parameters have been stable. Tested all tonight:
1.026
KH: 9.4
Ca:415
Mg:1290
NO3: 5-10
PO4: 0.04 (Hanna)

Unfortunately in my panic to baste everything off I didn’t get the brown algae pics but here’s the Birdsnest before I snipped the tips. Top right tip was the worst
21666A02-CE40-45A3-8593-BFE330CCDD89.jpeg
It looks like a fairly healthy BN coral. Snipping the ends should stimulate growth. My BS coral tended to love high flow, high light, and practically perfect water chemistry. It may need to be moved to a higher flow area in the tank, or possibly its not getting enough light? Other than that it looks rather healthy. Its hard to tell from your rocks. I don't see any dyno's or hair algae.. your rocks look extremely clean. Are you experiencing any other damages to any other corals in the tank?
 
OP
OP
AFHokie

AFHokie

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 27, 2022
Messages
493
Reaction score
516
Location
Virginia
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
It looks like a fairly healthy BN coral. Snipping the ends should stimulate growth. My BS coral tended to love high flow, high light, and practically perfect water chemistry. It may need to be moved to a higher flow area in the tank, or possibly its not getting enough light? Other than that it looks rather healthy. Its hard to tell from your rocks. I don't see any dyno's or hair algae.. your rocks look extremely clean. Are you experiencing any other damages to any other corals in the tank?
It was quite healthy at the time in May. I did have a dino outbreak that put the BN on its death bed. I was able to save it and it’s recovered a lot from its low point but still not as nice as when I first got it.
 

Rick's Reviews

2500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
May 17, 2021
Messages
2,738
Reaction score
1,750
Location
Nottingham
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Have you moved coral/birdnest back to original 'introduction' place, this might be best instead of 'trimming' tips'
Then work out your algae, cycle / bacterial bloom etc
 

Caring for your picky eaters: What do you feed your finicky fish?

  • Live foods

    Votes: 22 31.4%
  • Frozen meaty foods

    Votes: 56 80.0%
  • Soft pellets

    Votes: 11 15.7%
  • Masstick (or comparable)

    Votes: 7 10.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 4 5.7%
Back
Top