Can’t keep anything alive, need help

[Uncle99]

There is no fish so I should keep it fallow?

Yup, no fish, no ick, that’s the way it works.
Just no fish in the DT, that will end them.

 

[Lavey29]

fair enough

But as a new reefer learn from this. Clowns are notorious for disease. So only look for tank bred not wild caught and QT them.

 

[Uncle99]

Then I'll temporarily remove the rocks and then replace the sand as i have already dosed some copper into the tank

Oh!
That’s not a good idea.
Copper kills.

I’d use nothing that copper touched, just to be safe.

 

[Adamski08]

But as a new reefer learn from this. Clowns are notorious for disease. So only look for tank bred not wild caught and QT them.

will a 5g plastic box work as a QT for clownfish, as i don't plan on keeping any other fish?

 

[BiggestE22]

Will the tank be okay if I do a massive water change to get rid of copper and other bad things?

No you will have to dump the sand and rock. Water change won’t work for copper

 

[Adamski08]

Oh!
That’s not a good idea.
Copper kills.

I looked through the manual of the medicin and it said nothing about doing it in a QT. The only thing I've found regarding precautions was this:

 

[BristleWormHater]

but if i don't plan on keeping inverts in the future, will corals still be fine?

No, corals are inverts, and you absolutely need inverts. Clean-up crews are 99% inverts snails, crabs, urchins, stars they are all invertebrates.

 

[Adamski08]

No you will have to dump the sand and rock. Water change won’t work for copper

Lesson learned for the future i guess.

 

[Adamski08]

No, and you absolutely need inverts. Clean-up crews are 99% inverts snails, crabs, urchins, stars they are all invertebrates.

What inverts do i need for a 25g tank?

 

[Uncle99]

I looked through the manual of the medicin and it said nothing about doing it in a QT. The only thing I've found regarding precautions was this:

Trimaran is useless. Snake oil IMM.

Only copper and hypo for fish with ick and fallow for DT.

That’s all that’s effective, tested, tried and true.
Everything else is a leap of faith.

You have no fish, so only fallow was required.

 

[BristleWormHater]

but if i don't plan on keeping inverts in the future, will corals still be fine?

What inverts do i need for a 25g tank?

Corals are invertibrates. Snails are essential. Brittle stars are great algae eaters. Urchins are too.

 

[Adamski08]

Trimaran is useless.
Only copper and hypo for ick and fallow for DT.
That’s all that’s effective, tested, tried and true.
Everything else is a leap of faith.

so will Trimarin mess up my tank or is it fine?

 

[Adamski08]

Corals are invertibrates. Snails are essential. Brittle stars are great algae eaters. Urchins are too.

So when I get the tank up and running again I should get Nassarius snails and a brittle star or an Urchin?

 

[Uncle99]

so will Trimarin mess up my tank or is it fine?

Should be fine.

 

[Adamski08]

Should be fine.

So i don't need to restart my tank?

 

[Uncle99]

So when I get the tank up and running again I should get Nassarius snails and a brittle star or an Urchin?

Neither.
A new tank requires no CUC members especially ones that consume a lot of stuff.
Just get the bio-filter going and start fish add after you’ve finished the fallow period in your DT.

 

[Adamski08]

Neither.
A new tank requires no CUC members especially ones that consume a lot of stuff.
Just get the bio-filter going and start fish add after you’ve finished the fallow period in your DT.

Do you know of any hardy fish except Clownfish that are pretty? Don't know if I will trust Clownfishes not to have disseases

 

[Uncle99]

So i don't need to restart my tank?

No, not with that product.
Just stop it, it’s useless.

Wait the 76 days at normal temperature or elevate temp to 81 and go 45-50 days.

 

[Uncle99]

Do you know of any hardy fish except Clownfish that are pretty? Don't know if I will trust Clownfishes not to have disseases

A Royal Gramma is a great fish provided you have rock work and the tank is at least 20g.

They all can get disease. Don’t let that stop you.

Clowns, once settled are usually quite long lived are great in pairs and in at least 20g, allow for a couple other friends.

 

[Adamski08]

No, not with that product.
Just stop it, it’s useless.

Wait the 76 days at normal temperature or elevate temp to 81 and go 45-50.

Just for future problems, why does increasing temperature to 81 reduce the fallow period by so much?