Chalice loosing color

Katrina71 · Oct 21, 2018

DSC reef said:
I would try to frag off the remaining good tissue. I've had that chalice come back from a tiny bit of tissue.

Me too

Joshua2598 · Oct 21, 2018

DSC reef said:
I would try to frag off the remaining good tissue. I've had that chalice come back from a tiny bit of tissue.

Try this

mtraylor · Oct 21, 2018

Alk is usually the first thing that causes chalices to do that if its a parm. Get a double check on it.

Bryce M. · Nov 17, 2018

So my I'm somewhat worried for my chalice, and I thought this what is it but I'm not too sure. My chalice coral is in shade now with 20% white light on a current usa marine orbit light, I changed this because one of the corners was white, it wasn't the skeleton like this, just white flesh and now one of the mouths is getting white too. Is it going to end up like this? or will it recover color, it came grayish purple with orange mouths and spots.

Rjramos · Nov 17, 2018

MurphyJ said:
Do you know the name of the one bottom left in your DT pic?

I don’t know, but here is a better pic.

jabberwock · Nov 18, 2018

Space pizza is gone. Gonna stick with softies for now...

jabberwock · Nov 18, 2018

Bryce M. said:
So my I'm somewhat worried for my chalice, and I thought this what is it but I'm not too sure. My chalice coral is in shade now with 20% white light on a current usa marine orbit light, I changed this because one of the corners was white, it wasn't the skeleton like this, just white flesh and now one of the mouths is getting white too. Is it going to end up like this? or will it recover color, it came grayish purple with orange mouths and spots.

Mine had definite tissue loss. Yours might just be changing color due to a lighting change. I hope it works out.

Bryce M. · Nov 18, 2018

jabberwock said:
Mine had definite tissue loss. Yours might just be changing color due to a lighting change. I hope it works out.

Sorry to hear about your loss. Mine was just having too much light, the pale part is getting it's color back.

Centerline · Nov 18, 2018

Frag it and super glue the edges down, double check your mag (1400 +). Could well be a pathogen of some type as well (doxy MIGHT help).

Centerline · Nov 18, 2018

mtraylor said:
Alk is usually the first thing that causes chalices to do that if its a parm. Get a double check on it.

Are you suggesting high (12 ish), low (7 ish) or swings?

jabberwock · Nov 18, 2018

Centerline said:
Frag it and super glue the edges down, double check your mag (1400 +). Could well be a pathogen of some type as well (doxy MIGHT help).

Nothing left to frag. Was doing great for a couple months, new growth, new mouths, and then just decided to die. I am not a fan of adding stuff to fix stuff that i will have to add stuff to reverse later. I scraped the skeleton off the frag plug and will reuse it.

wesman42 · Nov 18, 2018

jabberwock said:
Nothing left to frag. Was doing great for a couple months, new growth, new mouths, and then just decided to die. I am not a fan of adding stuff to fix stuff that i will have to add stuff to reverse later. I scraped the skeleton off the frag plug and will reuse it.

I personally have never had a chalice die for no reason. They do not "decide" to die. I've always narrowed it to either lighting, flow, or water parameters. My first chalice I killed by letting alk get too low, then doing a large water change. They don't typically just die for no reason. They're great indicators of water parameter swings (usually losing flesh is this indicator).

Do you have an ATO? Do you dose? How often do you check Alk, Cal, and Mg?

Shoot...I'd wager keeping a multitude of chalices is more difficult than a lot of SPS like birdsnest, montis, and some hardier acros. I've never done it because I know for a fact my "chalice-worthy" locations are slim and next to none. I currently have 2. One on each end of the tank on the outer rim of my lighting.

mtraylor · Nov 18, 2018

Centerline said:
Are you suggesting high (12 ish), low (7 ish) or swings?

I usually notice it when my alk gets low the chalices will not like it. But all the above.

Centerline · Nov 19, 2018

mtraylor said:
I usually notice it when my alk gets low the chalices will not like it. But all the above.

Ya mine really don't like anything under 8 - 10 seems to be a good number and swings are death.

t5Nitro · Sep 5, 2020

Bump to an older thread here. My chalice is doing exactly this. I realized my temps range from about 77F to 80F over the course of 24 hours. Is this temp swing enough that will injure corals? I suppose my tank will be more stable in temp during winter when the heaters need to be on to keep it where I set it.

IKD · Sep 5, 2020

t5Nitro said:
Bump to an older thread here. My chalice is doing exactly this. I realized my temps range from about 77F to 80F over the course of 24 hours. Is this temp swing enough that will injure corals? I suppose my tank will be more stable in temp during winter when the heaters need to be on to keep it where I set it.

That temp range doesn’t seem like an issue. What are your other parameters?

t5Nitro · Sep 5, 2020

SG 1.024 (milwaukee digital)
Alk 7.7-7.9 (hanna checker) I had a dip to 6.6 when I went on vacation 2 weeks ago, the drop from the usual range was gradually over that 1 week. It's been stable at usual numbers since I came back.
Ca 420-430
NO3 12-25 (nyos)
PO4 0.05 (hanna checker)
Mg 1300s (salifert)
pH ??
Lights: Atlantik V4 + OR3 blue plus LED bar. 12 hour photoperiod, 5 hours max intensity. 8 hours total where it's at 85%. Chalice sits on the BB glass in the front.

IKD · Sep 5, 2020

t5Nitro said:
SG 1.024 (milwaukee digital)
Alk 7.7-7.9 (hanna checker) I had a dip to 6.6 when I went on vacation 2 weeks ago, the drop from the usual range was gradually over that 1 week. It's been stable at usual numbers since I came back.
Ca 420-430
NO3 12-25 (nyos)
PO4 0.05 (hanna checker)
Mg 1300s (salifert)
pH ??
Lights: Atlantik V4 + OR3 blue plus LED bar. 12 hour photoperiod, 5 hours max intensity. 8 hours total where it's at 85%. Chalice sits on the BB glass in the front.

Parameters look good if they are stable. Could be too much lighting if it’s bleaching. Any pics?