Chemiclean -Vibrant conflict

[Discovery]

Checking to see if anyone has experience using Chemiclean while using Vibrant Reef? Have a bad outbreak of turf algae no clean-up crew can contend with. I started dosing with Vibrant 5 weeks ago. Yes, the turf algae is beginning to recede. However, as some reviewers note, I now have a bad cyano outbreak (the kind that partially dissipates overnight and comes back strong under LEDs). I’ve successfully used Chemiclean in another tank but a bit concerned about treating this tank with Chemiclean while also doing Vibrant. It’s a mixed 200g with softies, sps and 6 social fish. Thanks everyone.

 

[Cory]

Checking to see if anyone has experience using Chemiclean while using Vibrant Reef? Have a bad outbreak of turf algae no clean-up crew can contend with. I started dosing with Vibrant 5 weeks ago. Yes, the turf algae is beginning to recede. However, as some reviewers note, I now have a bad cyano outbreak (the kind that partially dissipates overnight and comes back strong under LEDs). I’ve successfully used Chemiclean in another tank but a bit concerned about treating this tank with Chemiclean while also doing Vibrant. It’s a mixed 200g with softies, sps and 6 social fish. Thanks everyone.

That sounds like dinos not cyano. Got a pic of it? Likely you'll need a uv sterilizer to remove those dinos unfortunately. It happened to me too with vibrant, dinos showed up after all the hair algae died.

 

[Discovery]

Thanks Cory - I was afraid of that. Excuse the poor image - the red on the sand gets worse throughout the day and it's over most of the rock. I do regular water changes siphoning the red off the rocks and returns a few days later. I'm still not certain that it's dynos as I don't see the typical stringy air bubble infested mats. I may just plop some on a slide and take a peak under a microscope.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I do not know if the bacteria in vibrant (assuming that is really how it works) are susceptible to the erythromycin antibiotic in chemi clean.

 

[ScottR]

Chemiclean is such a short treatment. It’s worth it to run chemiclean then go back to vibrant after

 

[Discovery]

Sounds like a plan Scott. Let's see how it resolves.

 

[Cory]

Thanks Cory - I was afraid of that. Excuse the poor image - the red on the sand gets worse throughout the day and it's over most of the rock. I do regular water changes siphoning the red off the rocks and returns a few days later. I'm still not certain that it's dynos as I don't see the typical stringy air bubble infested mats. I may just plop some on a slide and take a peak under a microscope.

Actually your lucky thats cyano. Dinos are brown.

 

[xiholdtruex]

I have recently ran two treatments of chemiclean two weeks apart with 25% water changes between each one and dose vibrant weekly with no ill effects.

 

[homer1475]

Easy solution. Stop using vibrant, and the cyano will go away.

I used vibrant about 2 years ago to clean up some bubble algae. Once the bubbles were gone, cyano showed up. Nothing I did would stop it, even back to back chemiclean treatments. Once I stopped vibrant, about 2 months later my cyano issues cleared up on it's own.

just read the HUGE vibrant thread. Cyano usually follows with vibrant dosing.

 

[xiholdtruex]

Easy solution. Stop using vibrant, and the cyano will go away.

I used vibrant about 2 years ago to clean up some bubble algae. Once the bubbles were gone, cyano showed up. Nothing I did would stop it, even back to back chemiclean treatments. Once I stopped vibrant, about 2 months later my cyano issues cleared up on it's own.

just read the HUGE vibrant thread. Cyano usually follows with vibrant dosing.

I wonder why that is. I also had cyano after using dr tims waste away for a gha issue I had.

 

[Discovery]

So many mixed Vibrant reviews. I'll take a step back on dosing Vibrant for a while after Chemiclean treatment. My tank's high phosphate level - yes I have fat fish - which probably fueled the original turf algae outbreak, continues to diminish using GFO.

 

[Cory]

I wonder why that is. I also had cyano after using dr tims waste away for a gha issue I had.

Imo cyano feeds on decaying hair algae. Vibrant weakens the hair algae and cyano grows on it.

 

[PoeLagoon]

I've had a similar occurrence. I fought GHA with vibrant and CUC. A couple of weeks after the GHA was gone came the Cyano. After a couple of week of that battle I gave in and used Chemi-clean. I'm debating if I should start the preventive dosing (every other week) with Vibrant or just wait to see what's coming next.

 

[xiholdtruex]

Imo cyano feeds on decaying hair algae. Vibrant weakens the hair algae and cyano grows on it.

this last time I used vibrant to fight chrysophytes after a chemiclean dosage and it grew cyano again lol never ending battle

 

[xiholdtruex]

I've had a similar occurrence. I fought GHA with vibrant and CUC. A couple of weeks after the GHA was gone came the Cyano. After a couple of week of that battle I gave in and used Chemi-clean. I'm debating if I should start the preventive dosing (every other week) with Vibrant or just wait to see what's coming next.

I would say wait to see whats coming next

 

[Discovery]

That’s what I’m doing. Just completed the large post chemi-clean water change and cyano is gone. Will increase maintenance and pass on the Vibrant for a while.

 

[PoeLagoon]

I'll probably do the same. Anyone else amazed at how clean your tanks looks after chemi-clean? Also, any thoughts on dosing beneficial bacteria after the treatment? I've got some Microbacter 7 coming based on some other post suggestions.

 

[thewire]

That's what I afraid on Vibrant. Luckily it's one expensive bottle else I would have buy it. From what I read, Vibrant tends to lead to Dino or big time cyano!

If must or need bacteria, maybe Brightwell Microbacter Clean or 7

 

[BZOFIQ]

I do not know if the bacteria in vibrant (assuming that is really how it works) are susceptible to the erythromycin antibiotic in chemi clean.

There is erythromycin in chemi clean? Thats an anti-biotic, what purpose does it serve?

 

[Aclman88]

There is erythromycin in chemi clean? Thats an anti-biotic, what purpose does it serve?

Cyano is a bacteria, which is why chemi-clean would be effective against it.