Demsel started breathing heavy again

Jay Hemdal · Mar 14, 2023

KING KONG said:
I hv seen under microscope now(had hard time to magnify). I also seen something black coloured thing. Sorry for bad pics.

The picture on the left is a capsalid fluke, probably Neobenedenia. The picture on the right could be also, but it isn't clear enough.

Jay

KING KONG · Mar 15, 2023

Jay Hemdal said:
The picture on the left is a capsalid fluke, probably Neobenedenia. The picture on the right could be also, but it isn't clear enough.

Jay

So does hyposalinity works? I also seen little black worms in microscope. I hv lowered my salinity to 1.013

Jay Hemdal · Mar 15, 2023

KING KONG said:
So does hyposalinity works? I also seen little black worms in microscope. I hv lowered my salinity to 1.013

Yes, lowering the specific gravity to 1.012 for 35 days will work.

Jay

KING KONG · Mar 15, 2023

Jay Hemdal said:
Yes, lowering the specific gravity to 1.012 for 35 days will work.

Jay

I hv also seen little black worms, don't know what was that as I failed to capture that.

Jay Hemdal · Mar 15, 2023

KING KONG said:
I hv also seen little black worms, don't know what was that as I failed to capture that.

Without a clear picture, I cannot guess as to what those are - even with a picture, I may not be able to tell. The hooks in your one picture make it clear that it is a fluke.

Jay

KING KONG · Mar 19, 2023

It's 2nd day of 1.010 salinity and now my demsel has started eating well. I am also feeding boiled peas. Now it is not spitting food from it's mouth back. But, Today I seen my demsel again flashing so keeping an close eye on demsel. I also seen white-seed shaped things falling from lionfish after fw dip so I think it was the one who bought flukes but surprisingly, it didn't shown any symptoms from 1-2 months

Jay Hemdal · Mar 19, 2023

KING KONG said:
It's 2nd day of 1.010 salinity and now my demsel has started eating well. I am also feeding boiled peas. Now it is not spitting food from it's mouth back. But, Today I seen my demsel again flashing so keeping an close eye on demsel. I also seen white-seed shaped things falling from lionfish after fw dip so I think it was the one who bought flukes but surprisingly, it didn't shown any symptoms from 1-2 months

Don't feed it boiled peas, that is an old fancy goldfish remedy from the 1950's that got misapplied to marine fish. Your damsel is not constipated, it has edema (fluid in the tissues).

Jay

KING KONG · Mar 19, 2023

Jay Hemdal said:
Don't feed it boiled peas, that is an old fancy goldfish remedy from the 1950's that got misapplied to marine fish. Your damsel is not constipated, it has edema (fluid in the tissues).

Jay

Actually now it is coming back to eating. It is now eating pellets also. Before it was not eating pellets. Just a question that does lionfish adapt well in hypo? I done fw dip of lion and it's skin is little peeling after that and I saw again white seed like thing(flukes). Does flukes causes peeling in fw dip?

vetteguy53081 · Mar 19, 2023

KING KONG said:
Actually now it is coming back to eating. It is now eating pellets also. Before it was not eating pellets. Just a question that does lionfish adapt well in hypo? I done fw dip of lion and it's skin is little peeling after that and I saw again white seed like thing(flukes). Does flukes causes peeling in fw dip?

Ive seen hypo used for lions but understand hypo does not treat all fish, and proper Ph must be maintained during the 30-35 day process. Additionally, lionfish and wrasses at times do not respond well to hypo making it a risk.

KING KONG · Mar 19, 2023

vetteguy53081 said:
Ive seen hypo used for lions but understand hypo does not treat all fish, and proper Ph must be maintained during the 30-35 day process. Additionally, lionfish and wrasses at times do not respond well to hypo making it a risk.

Ohk. I hv done prazi in the beginning but I think it didn't treat my lionfish. Lionfish is not showing any symptoms but today it developed white coloured seed grains on it and then I found flukes. It was looking very lazy but now it is moving so maybe coz of flukes it was little lazy

Jay Hemdal · Mar 19, 2023

Lionfish tolerate hyposalinity if done correctly - a specific gravity of 1.012 will treat flukes. Held there for 35 days and then returned to normal specific gravity over 4 or 5 days.

Jay

KING KONG · Mar 23, 2023

1 week completed at 1.010 salinity. Both fishes are looking more active than before. Just demsel developed marks which I think are because of iching from rocks.

Also why is it doing this? It used to do this before on fish's face.

KING KONG · Apr 7, 2023

Thx everyone! My demsel continue to surprise me. It is looking good. I think hyposalinity did a trick for me. So should i raise salinity back?(I'll take 5-7 days for that)No more itching from rocks and it is eating well.:). I'm too grateful to u guys :)

Standing next to lionfish (it is breathing better than before)
https://youtube.com/shorts/JnAuRvQ1iZI?feature=share

At Feeding time(it is eating well now) https://youtube.com/shorts/yfbRGaYXY2M?feature=share

Jay Hemdal · Apr 7, 2023

KING KONG said:
Thx everyone! My demsel continue to surprise me. It is looking good. I think hyposalinity did a trick for me. So should i raise salinity back?(I'll take 5-7 days for that)No more itching from rocks and it is eating well.:). I'm too grateful to u guys :)

Standing next to lionfish (it is breathing better than before)
https://youtube.com/shorts/JnAuRvQ1iZI?feature=share

At Feeding time(it is eating well now) https://youtube.com/shorts/yfbRGaYXY2M?feature=share

No - like I had mentioned, hold the fish at hyposalinity for 35 days, then return it slowly to regular salinity over 4 to 5 days.

The reason for this is to kill off any resting stages of parasites that the hyposalinity doesn't kill - fluke eggs and ich tomonts are resistant to hyposalinity and can still hatch out. the 35 days means that if they hatch out, the young parasites will emerge into the hypo and die. After 35 days, there won't be any resting stages left in the tank.

Jay

KING KONG · Apr 7, 2023

Jay Hemdal said:
No - like I had mentioned, hold the fish at hyposalinity for 35 days, then return it slowly to regular salinity over 4 to 5 days.

The reason for this is to kill off any resting stages of parasites that the hyposalinity doesn't kill - fluke eggs and ich tomonts are resistant to hyposalinity and can still hatch out. the 35 days means that if they hatch out, the young parasites will emerge into the hypo and die. After 35 days, there won't be any resting stages left in the tank.

Jay

Okk thx :). Now I am sure my lionfish may hv bought them(surprisingly it shown symptoms after demsel and there were no symptoms in qt and I had done prazi )

KING KONG · May 5, 2023

Nearly 2 months completed and now demsel is nearly back to normal. It's tail has grown back, it has became little more active and it is breathing little slow now. I think Hyposalinity does a trick for me

Thank u so much for help:)

Jay Hemdal · May 5, 2023

KING KONG said:
Nearly 2 months completed and now demsel is nearly back to normal. It's tail has grown back, it has became little more active and it is breathing little slow now. I think Hyposalinity does a trick for me

Thank u so much for help:)

Just off the cuff - it seems to be doing better than in previous videos?

Jay

KING KONG · May 5, 2023

Jay Hemdal said:
Just off the cuff - it seems to be doing better than in previous videos?

Jay

Just breathing coming down. I hv compared them with previous ones. The problem is it is breathing with it's mouth open wide. Breath per sec. has came down :) .