Dinoflagellates - dinos a possible cure!? Follow along and see!

[Russ265]

so far im impressed with what i see.....

https://vid.me/PXHt

i cant find many active dinos with my samples after dosing.

some things to note.... peroxide is still on the doser. UV is offline.

 

[Owen O Reilly]

Here is a pic of my tank currently. Mine started right after i started to siphon my sand bed. I did a huge water change and siphoned out what i could and it never really came back until this past week. I curently have a 75 bow front with about 20 in the sump. I am running a skimmer and carbon with a portion set up as a refugium.

 

[twilliard]

Here is a pic of my tank currently. Mine started right after i started to siphon my sand bed. I did a huge water change and siphoned out what i could and it never really came back until this past week. I curently have a 75 bow front with about 20 in the sump. I am running a skimmer and carbon with a portion set up as a refugium.

Cylindrospermum or spirulina is what I see

 

[twilliard]

so far im impressed with what i see.....

https://vid.me/PXHt

i cant find many active dinos with my samples after dosing.

some things to note.... peroxide is still on the doser. UV is offline.

It's like they become lethargic after metronidazole

 

[twilliard]

Day 18 back to normal feeding and addition of no3

 

[Owen O Reilly]

Cylindrospermum or spirulina is what I see

So thats a whole differnet course of action on this stuff.

 

[twilliard]

So thats a whole differnet course of action on this stuff.

Yes that is a whole other direction
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/positive-identification-of-cyanobacteria.253287/
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/back-at-it-peroxide-vrs-cyanobacteria.241002/

 

[taricha]

Cylindrospermum or spirulina is what I see

I've had cyano+dino combinations that look like that too.
Hard to say for sure without microscope. But maybe the lights on/off behavior can give a clue.

 

[domination2580]

So any progress? What the outcome?

 

[domination2580]

I might have dinos.

 

[domination2580]

 

[domination2580]

@twilliard. Do you think this is dinos?

 

[twilliard]

Yes I do think it is dinoflagellates
Best way to know is under a microscope if you have one or know someone that does.

 

[twilliard]

So any progress? What the outcome?

Noticeable progress should be seen around day 10 and I don't think we are that far yet with members tanks.

 

[domination2580]

So what would you reccomend?

 

[twilliard]

So what would you reccomend?

First thing is first.
Positive conclusion of dinoflagellates
Need to see what you have under a microscope or do the cup test or bucket test (which is somewhat a way to tell)
When you change some water sucked up some of that stuff into your bucket and give it a swirl to break them up. Dinoflagellates will find themselves in the current of the bucket and bind back up. They are pretty smart!

 

[domination2580]

First thing is first.
Positive conclusion of dinoflagellates
Need to see what you have under a microscope or do the cup test or bucket test (which is somewhat a way to tell)
When you change some water sucked up some of that stuff into your bucket and give it a swirl to break them up. Dinoflagellates will find themselves in the current of the bucket and bind back up. They are pretty smart!

So do a water change and suck them up? Make a current and they will stay in the current?

 

[twilliard]

So do a water change and suck them up? Make a current and they will stay in the current?

Yup sucked them up. Stir them up good in the bucket and they should disperse in the current.
As the current slows they should regroup back together.
It's a crude test, this is how I noticed the positive effect of metronidazole. They wouldn't regroup

 

[StrangeDejavu]

I removed a snot string with a turkey baster and put it in an empty bottle with a cap on it, shook it vigorously and poured that through a paper towel into a shot glass which I set under my tank light. Within 10 minutes, this is what I saw. Diatoms and cyanobacteria will not regroup like this, so if you see this, it's 100% dinoflagellates. A microscope is needed to ID exact species.

 

[twilliard]

I removed a snot string with a turkey baster and put it in an empty bottle with a cap on it, shook it vigorously and poured that through a paper towel into a shot glass which I set under my tank light. Within 10 minutes, this is what I saw. Diatoms and cyanobacteria will not regroup like this, so if you see this, it's 100% dinoflagellates. A microscope is needed to ID exact species.

Thats awesome and that was strained water?
Too cool!