Dinoflagellates - dinos a possible cure!? Follow along and see!
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Tank pests..
That is where we are at for now.
Just a thought, would it be possible to give this topic it's own forum/sub forum. There could be an instruction stickie for quick reference. Each person could then have a thread detailing their dosing schedule and results. There could also be a thread for discussion, which may keep the other threads less cluttered and more data/result centered.
domination2580
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Are they all alive?
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twilliard
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Yes they are still alive.
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Ya that would be good to have here now staff just has to see this post
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twilliard
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They are always there night and day.
During the night they tend to roam freely in the water column then group back up during the lighting period.
Jakepen
Few beers and I'll frag anything...
Oh. Do they start out slow? I know you said it may just be a hair algae I have coming in. I did recently add two new fish, and have increased feeding, so it could be that I suppose. It's spreading on my sandbed though, getting longer.
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Yes if freshly introduced to your tank it is a slow process at first.
Once you see the strands build then it will take off
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For right now I would say diatoms but without a scope shot I am just guessing.I just haven't seen this on my bed before. Tank is almost four months old.
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Here you go my friend! @domination2580
I heated the slide and that took care of the movement issue LOL
I heated the slide and that took care of the movement issue LOL
dansreef
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Hi Twilliard! Would you please do a single summary of your protocol here?
I have battling DINOs for a very long time. I am essentially running a fish only with cuc right now because the DINOs and the treatments have pretty much decimated any corals I have had. Yes....I have done everything I could find. With out getting onto gory details....I thought I finally had them beat. Then about a month ago...the telltale signs started to appear again. After microscopic investigation...it does appear to be a slightly different variant. A bit more oblong in shape, yellow to orange like the last. These seem much more active that the previous variety.
To be honest... I am almost about ready to give up. Was going to nuke the tank and simply leave it as a fish only. I have a couple of friends that have nuked their tanks with copper and over many months...slowly removed the copper with cac and have been reintroducing corals....with very good success. I don't want to do that right now....but almost to that point.
I saw your protocol here a couple weeks ago. I honestly just sighed and moved on mainly because I have chased these cures all before. A friend shared your post again with me and suggested I give it a whirl....before I nuke the tank. I can share insights with everyone...along the way.
Please share the currently accepted dosages...and frequency. I have seen one scoop per 10g...for 3 days... I have also seen some increase dosage. ... Since this is your protocol, can you please share what you have concluded and I will follow that to a t and share my results. I have recieved three 5g vials and am ready to go.
My tank is a 180 with a Rubbermaid 100 gal sump. My guess with rock, sand and equipment displacement....to be about 200 gal total volume. I am running a large a large skimmer and an AS-7 Algae Scrubber from 302 Aquatics. Other than that...I run filter socks on the return water to the sump.
Thank you for your help! I hope my experience can help confirm your protocol.
I have battling DINOs for a very long time. I am essentially running a fish only with cuc right now because the DINOs and the treatments have pretty much decimated any corals I have had. Yes....I have done everything I could find. With out getting onto gory details....I thought I finally had them beat. Then about a month ago...the telltale signs started to appear again. After microscopic investigation...it does appear to be a slightly different variant. A bit more oblong in shape, yellow to orange like the last. These seem much more active that the previous variety.
To be honest... I am almost about ready to give up. Was going to nuke the tank and simply leave it as a fish only. I have a couple of friends that have nuked their tanks with copper and over many months...slowly removed the copper with cac and have been reintroducing corals....with very good success. I don't want to do that right now....but almost to that point.
I saw your protocol here a couple weeks ago. I honestly just sighed and moved on mainly because I have chased these cures all before. A friend shared your post again with me and suggested I give it a whirl....before I nuke the tank. I can share insights with everyone...along the way.
Please share the currently accepted dosages...and frequency. I have seen one scoop per 10g...for 3 days... I have also seen some increase dosage. ... Since this is your protocol, can you please share what you have concluded and I will follow that to a t and share my results. I have recieved three 5g vials and am ready to go.
My tank is a 180 with a Rubbermaid 100 gal sump. My guess with rock, sand and equipment displacement....to be about 200 gal total volume. I am running a large a large skimmer and an AS-7 Algae Scrubber from 302 Aquatics. Other than that...I run filter socks on the return water to the sump.
Thank you for your help! I hope my experience can help confirm your protocol.
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twilliard
Tank pests..
I understand the frustration.
This is why I spend all my time doing this. If I can save a tank a day I feel I have made a valuable resource here on R2R.
Now this hypothesis is not concluded yet so keep this in mind.
Currently I am dosing 125mg per 10 gallons when lights go out.
I am doing this for 10 days as the 3 day treatment was disproved
I feel confident about the 10 days but results will be another 2 weeks out.
I am on day 8 currently
A good metronidazole source for large volume tanks is here
http://www.jehmco.com/html/ordering_info.html
If by chance you are able to get a microscope shot posted that would be great as I will add the variants to my writeup if this hypothesis is confirmed.
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@dansreef I would not be concerned with nuking the tank with this. So far everyone trying this has had no noticeable effects on any fish, corals, or other inverts.
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@tarichaHere you go my friend! @domination2580
I heated the slide and that took care of the movement issue LOL
What do you think?
dansreef
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Ok guys and gals... I am on board. I have essentially 15 grams or 6 days of metro in my hands now...based on 125 mg / 10 gal of volume. I will begin dosing this evening after my light cycle is over. I will procure more so I have 12 days worth.
Todd... Here are two pictures that I just took with my cheap butt microscope that I got off of amazon. The first is at 4x and the second is at 10x. The pictures are taken with my Samsung S6 Active. I plan on taking pictures every couple of days for comparisons.
Todd... Here are two pictures that I just took with my cheap butt microscope that I got off of amazon. The first is at 4x and the second is at 10x. The pictures are taken with my Samsung S6 Active. I plan on taking pictures every couple of days for comparisons.
Jakepen
Few beers and I'll frag anything...
When you say slow process, you mean it takes my tank a little while to properly adjust to the rise in "nutrients", and may show symptoms such as these? And what do you mean I will see the strands take off. If it is dinos, I will see strands start, then take off into longer stringy algae? Is it a quick process?
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