DIY Optical Sensor help

[ellisz]

I have been trying to DIY an optical sensor for my FMMs. I have the sensor and the TRRS jack and trying to test the wire configuration. I have been able to get the sensor to open and close but not consistently. The sensor identifies the wire config - Blue & White is +5v. Red & Yellow output/sensor. The TRRS jack has red(tip), white, green, and black(base). I am seeing 4.67v from the Black and Green as well as Red and Green off the jack when plugged into the FMM. Any help as to what wire goes where? I have tested with different configurations but can't seem to get a consistent switching with the sensor.

Optical sensors -

TRRS jack -

Any words of wisdom or is this a fools errand? I have some Neptune optical sensors in use as well but thought I would do a little DIY for back ups.

Thanks

 

[WVNed]

Do understand how it works and are wiring diagrams meaningful to you?

This is what I found

The sensor has 2 circuits
One lights a LED
The other has a phototransistor the sees the light from the LED based on how it refracts. Since it refracts differently when wet and dry that is how it senses a water level.

R1 is a current limiting resistor for a LED
R2 is a pull down resistor so the output goes to 0 if the sensor is off. It goes to 5v when the transistor is on
R1 & R2 should be inside the FMM and not the sensor. So is the output.

SO what you are working with are the 4 wires at the point where the circled numbers 1 to 4 are on the diagram.


The sensors are colored differently but have the same functions

The Neptune end

Then you need to wire the optical sensor into the male connector with the proper pinout. Here is the pinout of the neptune optical sensor:

Pin one (closest to base of plug) Red
Pin two Green
Pin three Black
Pin four White

The generic optical sensors will probably have different colors on them, but generally Green is the Blue wire, and the Black is the Yellow



I hope this helps and is not just enough to be dangerous.

 

[ellisz]

I know enough to be dangerous - I think. I was pretty sure it was really just getting the the 4 wires from the sensor connected to the 4 wires on the jack in the right order. Expected it to be easier than it turned out. I am testing by putting the sensor in water and watching for it to open on the dashboard(not Fusion). The Neptune sensor works as expected.

Let me double check my connections and see if I missed something. Thanks for the detail.

 

[ellisz]

Went and tested again. I put white to white, red to red, yellow to black, and blue to green.

This gives me a closed switch no matter what. If I swap the black and green, I get an open switch all of the time.

 

[WVNed]

Look into this. Ignore the colors. There is no standard. Pay attention to what color comes out where on each end

so
Tip - Red on plug to white on sensor
Ring 1 - White on plug to yellow on sensor
Ring 2 - Green on plug to blue on sensor
Ring 3 - Black on plug to red on sensor

With one of the pigtails plugged in you should see 5 volts more or less green to black and red to white

 

[ellisz]

Thanks for calling out captain obvious! Sorry I took things a little too literal. I got one soldered up and working. Just have to figure out how I want to lay out the FMM's.

Thanks for all of the help.

 

[FPSJackyl]

Is this still working for you?

 

[ellisz]

Still working for me. I have 2 more to do but got distracted with anther project.

 

[FPSJackyl]

Still working for me. I have 2 more to do but got distracted with anther project.

what wiring combination did you end up with?

 

[Chiefmaster30]

what wiring combination did you end up with?

Stil working for you? Any chance you could post what wire config you ended up with? About to order these but now worried it may be above my diy skills. Thanks!

 

[bozo]

Still working for me. I have 2 more to do but got distracted with anther project.

still working?

going to make a bunch

Thanks

 

[bozo]

bump

 

[brandon0921]

also wondering which combination ended up working for you

 

[bozo]

also wondering which combination ended up working for you

I just wired these up.


You have to use the connectivity option on the multimeter to test which color wire goes to which TRRS pin.

Once you match the color of the wires to the pin number, you can solder your wires to the optical switch wires

You also have to ask the vendor who you bought the optical sensor from for a wire color diagram.

For me (could be different colors for you):

Pin 1 on the TRRS jack (Green Wire) -> Solders to Red Wire on the Optical Sensor

Pin 2 on the TRRS jack (Yellow Wire ) -> Solders to Blue Wire on the Optical Sensor

Pin 3 on the TRRS jack (Red Wire ) -> Solders to Yellow Wire on the Optical Sensor

Pin 4 on the TRRS jack (wHITE Wire ) -> Solders to White Wire on the Optical Sensor

 

[Randyp79]

Just ordered this guy on Amazon and soldered it up to existing Neptune optical sensor jack.

White to white
Red to red
Yellow to black
Green to blue

Works perfectly.