Dying Acans

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Well I am totally lost, posting this hoping that someone has come across it before and can pinpoint what the heck is going on. It has been happening for about 2 months but last week has been bad.
I have lost acans at an alarming rate, everything I have has been dipped and still everything is dying, torches and hammers and zoas are fine, my params are steady and are where they have been for as long as I can remember,
Sal - 1.025
ph - 8.3
kh - 9.6
cal - 450
mag - 1450
am - zero
no2 - zero
no3 - 5-10ppm
po4 - zero ( has never showed anything but this)
temperature is 25.2-25.7 maintained by one of those stc watsits
fish are
1 Yellow tang
2 clowns
1 chalk bass
1 silver belly wrasse

couple of mithrax crabs
1 conch
couple blue legged hermits
couple turbos
couple of trochus
loads of stomatella snails

lighting via IT5080 evergrow,max at 30%
Recently had a successful run with the fluco to rid bryopsis which worked may I add.

I have even got out middle of the night the other night to observe under red lights and other than loads of amphipods ( which I put up for id) nothing unusual.

but today I pulled these out from under some frag discs on the sand, but on a side note nothing like this has flushed out of the acans when dipping

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The last photo I can assume is a bristleworm? but what are the others? they looked like bits of fluff at first but I removed them with a turkey baster, they are alive and moving and have lots of little feelers, I will try to upload a short video too.

But this is what I have removed and will end up binning today

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this was ok two days ago
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To say this is soul destroying is an understatement.
This is the penultimate nail in the coffin now as its taken the enjoyment right out, this is now becoming a chore, and when your hobby becomes a chore it's no longer a hobby.
 

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Do you have any pics of the corals before the dip. Had to tell when thier angry in the cup.

Are you running gfo?
 

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How tall is your tank? 30% lights for corals on the sand is not much at all BUT im not familiar with that light so I cant say for sure. (I have a 24" and a 18" height both are LEDs at 60% and my acans are midway up).
Theyre probably starved for light/food-your parameters look great.
Ive had really good luck with feeding a paste of reef roids for "sick" acans and they will bounce back in a few weeks with biweekly feedings.
Some of yours look dead/near dead already though :(
 
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How tall is your tank? 30% lights for corals on the sand is not much at all BUT im not familiar with that light so I cant say for sure. (I have a 24" and a 18" height both are LEDs at 60% and my acans are midway up).
Theyre probably starved for light/food-your parameters look great.
Ive had really good luck with feeding a paste of reef roids for "sick" acans and they will bounce back in a few weeks with biweekly feedings.
Some of yours look dead/near dead already though :(
tank height is 14 inches, lights sit 11 inches above the tank, the acans vary from between 17 and 22 inches from the light.
 

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As stated above, feeding them may help. They are very susceptible to bacterial infections. I don't know if anyone has tried Furan-2 dips on acans like they do on zoas. Iodine dips would probably help. I wish that I had a more definitive answer for you.
 

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As stated above, feeding them may help. They are very susceptible to bacterial infections. I don't know if anyone has tried Furan-2 dips on acans like they do on zoas. Iodine dips would probably help. I wish that I had a more definitive answer for you.
no way....I had no idea! I kind of figured euphyllia may be
 

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When my acan's start to shrivel I feed'em extra. I broad cast Polybooster and spot feed ,plenty of mysis , eggs, roids , and some LPS pellets. Usually looking better the next day.
 

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I have a feeling you might have bjd...
I just went through a bout of it, lost a good 30% of my acans and would of lost more if I didn't jump into action.

Read up on brown jelly disease and set up a 2nd tank if you haven't already to try and salvage what you have remaining
 

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I thought brown jelly disease was specific to euphyllia?
 
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Must admit I've never heard of it on Acans, thought it was euphillia too.
 

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Had brown jelly on a rainbow acan before
....Lost the frag :(
 

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I thought brown jelly disease was specific to euphyllia?
Must admit I've never heard of it on Acans, thought it was euphillia too.

Me too, until I actually had losses occurring in front of my own eyes...
I'm sure there are various protozoans that can cause bjd, but as far as I know they're not just confined to euphyllia
 

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Me too, until I actually had losses occurring in front of my own eyes...
I'm sure there are various protozoans that can cause bjd, but as far as I know they're not just confined to euphyllia
interesting!
 

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You can see it in these images, the bjd that is...

First, the acan will stop inflating and it'll look sunk in but still have its colors.
This is the salvageable stage and rapid action must be taken!

Second, the bjd starts creeping over the flesh like a mold, and once at this stage it's near impossible to cure!

Third, the acan just melts away and all you're left with is skeleton...

I lost a solid $8oo worth of headie acans, but it could of been waaaay worse if I didn't jump into action
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