EMERGENCY (Freshwater), Help please

[Karen_2656]

Please answer this, I know this is a saltwater page but I really need a answer, you may have had a freshwater tank in the past. If you have please please answer

I bought 2 tuxedo blue platys, they where both extremely pregnant, the next day one was about to burst so I put her in a floating breeding box! Straight away she had the fry but they where all dead! She gave birth to the dead [emoji27][emoji27]

I was heartbroken [emoji24]

4 days later, she had white spots on her!

What is happening?!
Then to top it off, my swordtail was about to burst so I put her in the breeding floaty thing! Once again she had birth, some lived but where eat by the gouramis some how! The rest where dead,

I don't understand why all the baby's are dying! there all on there sides. Are they still alive or dead? There fins arnt moving and they are not breathing! Are they sleeping?
Why have the platys got white spots on them?
[emoji24][emoji24][emoji24][emoji24][emoji24][emoji24] please help

 

[Amoo]

You tuxedo looks like it has ich which means your whole system probably does now.

The gourmis (only fish I actually miss other then panda cats) from freshwater are going to eat any and every fry that escape from the box. The just see them as floating food if they escape.

In regards to the still births I would assume it's either, diet related, tank parameters related, parasite related or some combination there of.

 

[eatbreakfast]

Most fish will readily eat anything that they can fit in their mouth.

The white spots are ich.

The babies may be premature. The mother may have released them from the stress of being caught and put in a breeder box.

 

[Karen_2656]

Most fish will readily eat anything that they can fit in their mouth.

The white spots are ich.

The babies may be premature. The mother may have released them from the stress of being caught and put in a breeder box.

Thanks, so sad that they died :(

 

[Karen_2656]

You tuxedo looks like it has ich which means your whole system probably does now.

The gourmis (only fish I actually miss other then panda cats) from freshwater are going to eat any and every fry that escape from the box. The just see them as floating food if they escape.

In regards to the still births I would assume it's either, diet related, tank parameters related, parasite related or some combination there of.

What should I do about the ich? What caused it??

 

[Karen_2656]

You tuxedo looks like it has ich which means your whole system probably does now.

The gourmis (only fish I actually miss other then panda cats) from freshwater are going to eat any and every fry that escape from the box. The just see them as floating food if they escape.

In regards to the still births I would assume it's either, diet related, tank parameters related, parasite related or some combination there of.

What should I do about the ich? What caused it??

 

[Amoo]

To be completely honest it has been over 10 years since I have had a FW tank, I'm really not sure I can help you much.

That said I can tell you what caused it was not quarantining your new fish and dumping them right into your display. That part of the hobby holds true be it salt or fresh water.

I do find it odd though that two different mothers had still births, that seems strange from 2 different fish.

 

[Waters]

Assuming you don't have any live plants or inverts, there are a ton of freshwater ICH medications available that would take care of the parasite. You should be able to pick them up at any local pet store. The parasite was introduced into your tank...most likely by the last fish that you added.

 

[PringlesLFE]

Bummer. My two cents: when I used to breed FW, the first spawn of a new pair won't always make it. Should hopefully see better results the next time around

 

[dodgerblew]

As with saltwater, the ich was probably present and the new fish had compromised immune systems from being stressed from shipping, acclimation and pregnancy. The fry do look premature, I see yolk sacs. It's possible other fish will show signs but then again, maybe they won't. Freshwater is much simpler to deal with then salt as medicine to treat parasites in fish are harmful to corals. It doesn't look to be excessive so hopefully it won't expand. You can soak your food in selcon to get the benefits saltwater animals do.

 

[Mikedawg]

In some of your pics it looks like the fry hadn't absorbed their egg sacks before they were delivered and they are premature. This can be a sign of the mother's being stressed due to disease, poor water conditions and/or the trauma of being moved. Given the ich in the tank and a lot of decorations including colored gravel I would suggest treating the ich as mentioned above, testing parameters to make sure your water is suitable for live bearers especially, and giving the tank a good cleaning. Also, want to check water flow to make sure food/detritus isn't caught in decorations. Lastly, to catch a pregnant mom and avoid stressing her, I would turn out the lights and then move both the breeder box and a net slowly toward mom from opposite sides and try to encourage her to enter the box.

You'll get another chance for babies in a few weeks; good luck.

 

[Whipples]

In terms of treating ich, when it hit my freshwater tank (twice) i raised the temperature to 86F and held it there for i think 3+ weeks to accelerate and defeat the lifecycle of the disease. You will need to do serious gravel vacuuming to get all of the fallen cysts out. Make sure you put in an airstone as the higher temp the lower the dissolved oxygen. There are other chemical based treatments but I never used them in freshwater since my tank was planted. Good luck!

 

[NewSaltWaterGuy]

Ich is caused (imo) by horrible water parameters and slacking on routine maintenance.

We need to know your water parameters, and your maintenance schedule.

Also is your tank over 20 gallons? gourami's need 20 gallons plus. Especially with 2 of them, I would say 30 gallon tank minimum with 2 of them.

 

[Karen_2656]

To be completely honest it has been over 10 years since I have had a FW tank, I'm really not sure I can help you much.

That said I can tell you what caused it was not quarantining your new fish and dumping them right into your display. That part of the hobby holds true be it salt or fresh water.

I do find it odd though that two different mothers had still births, that seems strange from 2 different fish.

I bought some anti white spot and fungus treatment, it seems to have worked, one of the Platys ich was serious so I took him to the fish shop to heal, this is the other platy. Is he fully healed?

This is the treatment I used:

 

[Karen_2656]

Assuming you don't have any live plants or inverts, there are a ton of freshwater ICH medications available that would take care of the parasite. You should be able to pick them up at any local pet store. The parasite was introduced into your tank...most likely by the last fish that you added.

I used some treatment called anti white spot and fungus treatment, I had to take one platy back the itch was to serious, when she's healed I'll take her back, the other platy seems to have healed, is she fully healed?!

This is the treatment I used

 

[Karen_2656]

Ich is caused (imo) by horrible water parameters and slacking on routine maintenance.

We need to know your water parameters, and your maintenance schedule.

Also is your tank over 20 gallons? gourami's need 20 gallons plus. Especially with 2 of them, I would say 30 gallon tank minimum with 2 of them.

My tank is a 75g big enough for the gouramis! Also I've checked the water! It's perfect for all the fish I have ;))

 

[Waters]

The platy looks parasite free as of right now...just be careful. Due to the life cycle of ICH, it will drop off of the fish into the substrate, reproduce, and start all over again....often making it look like the parasite has been eliminated. Make sure you complete the treatment based of the directions on the bottle.

 

[Waters]

Ich is caused (imo) by horrible water parameters and slacking on routine maintenance.

We need to know your water parameters, and your maintenance schedule.

Also is your tank over 20 gallons? gourami's need 20 gallons plus. Especially with 2 of them, I would say 30 gallon tank minimum with 2 of them.

That is actually not entirely true.....unless the parasite in in your tank, the worst water conditions in the world won't cause the parasite to appear. I do agree that if the tank is already infested though, the sub-par water conditions will cause the fish to succumb much quicker, not really giving the fish any chance to fight it off.

 

[Karen_2656]

The platy looks parasite free as of right now...just be careful. Due to the life cycle of ICH, it will drop off of the fish into the substrate, reproduce, and start all over again....often making it look like the parasite has been eliminated. Make sure you complete the treatment based of the directions on the bottle.

Yes I am putting 10ml liquid in the tank! It said for 10 days! I've only done 4 days, 6 days left!!

 

[Waters]

Yes I am putting 10ml liquid in the tank! It said for 10 days! I've only done 4 days, 6 days left!!

Perfect....good luck :)