Exposing the truth: How to take unreal pics with your DSLR!!! -or- You are EXPOSED!

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  1. Reefnjunkie

    Reefnjunkie Acropora Junkie R2R Supporter Photo of the Month Award

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    Yes Tyree Ice Fire Echinata

    FWIW-I have actually just recently picked up a set of color cards, (White, Grey, Black) Im finding the Grey is slightly closer to what I see, both Grey and Adams technique have helped tremendously

    Same Ice fire with Grey card
    Ice Fire 3-26-16.JPG


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    I must have misunderstood if you're correct, I saw it as a how to LOL and learned from it
     

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    You rule Adam!
     
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    Are these the true colors of these corals? Or is it changed due to the adjustments
     
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    Reefnjunkie Acropora Junkie R2R Supporter Photo of the Month Award

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    OK I'm a dork, I see know-wonder what I did wrong that actually helped me take pictures with less post processing???

    Fortunately Ive been around the reef enough I don't get scammed (anymore) by the FB and certain vendors photos.....

    Sorry for my posts taking this thread in another direction :oops:
     
  5. Battlecorals

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    LOL not at all man, that truth is that the method I outlined can actually work very well if your intentions aren't to misrepresent. I think your pics looks great man, and the corals well... they would look good in the dark. Insane as always! Are you shooting in RAW then or no?
     
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    I am wondering if these are the true colors thats all they look great but I want to know how to take true pics with true colors
     
  7. ritter6788

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    They are not the true colors and that's the point of this thread. This wasn't written as a how to. It was written to show how some vendors manipulate camera settings so make corals look nicer than they really are.
     
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    I understand now how it is written to show that some vendors manipulate the colors, but my post and Adams comment shows that you simply use either the blue as your white balance or my case presently the grey card the pictures come out true to life.

    That's my experience anyway, funny tho, I literally skimmed the thread taking key poiints, shoot in all blue, asjust WB to all blue and BAM all done.
    My pictures show what happens when thats "all" you do.

    I hope all who jack up pictures experience a catastrophic crash of there systems and loose everything.

    Next time I won't hold back and I'll type how I really feel- Happy Easter!!
     
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    I am in physical pain. Stahp
     
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    ritter6788 Coral Fraud Private Eye Staff Member Team R2R R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award Reef Spotlight Award Photo of the Month Award Partner Member 2018

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    But how do you really feel! :eek:

    Lol
     
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    ritter6788 Coral Fraud Private Eye Staff Member Team R2R R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award Reef Spotlight Award Photo of the Month Award Partner Member 2018

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    Like everything else in this hobby, this doesn't work on all corals. Just the same as some glow and some don't under this or that light. I took some pics using this method and some look true to life, some look totally different and some wouldn't even show up well in the pics. I've been meaning to upload them here maybe I'll get it done tomorrow.
     
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    Aw ok yeah now i get it, was a bit confused for a min, yeah I agree completly.
     
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    ritter6788 Coral Fraud Private Eye Staff Member Team R2R R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award Reef Spotlight Award Photo of the Month Award Partner Member 2018

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    Here's one I took using the method Adam explained in this thread.

    This is a Jason Fox slowburn monti. This pic is how it looks to me in person.
    [​IMG]IMG_9633 by ritter6788, on Flickr

    This is with the altered white balance. Wouldn't be to hard for me to give this a name, post a pic and make a few bucks off of it. When it shows up at your door and it doesn't look like this pic I'll just tell you it lost color in shipping or it's your lighting/parameters. The appleberry monti in the pic wasn't changed much by the white balance. It's also a common/known coral I could use as a reference color to say I didn't photoshop the pic, which really I didn't photoshop it. :)
    [​IMG]IMG_9608 by ritter6788, on Flickr

    Here's one of my Acros I photographed using the white balance trick again. It's really a nice Acro I named blue pearl but looks nothing like this in person. Not a bit of yellow if you saw it in my tank. It's actually baby blue with light purple tips.
    [​IMG]IMG_9617 by ritter6788, on Flickr
     
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    Here's what I don't understand.. It's a pretty coral in reality. Why all the fraud? I guess it's difficult when the other guys are doing it.. But reputation gets you far. Like for example Adam represents what he's selling.. That makes me the customer happy. (Wouldn't be if I was hearing about it getting stressed out in shipping, parameters etc.) now I'll share my experience and guaranteed 3-4 people will order from him. And the. If those 3-4 are happy and so on... Plus every local area has people in it with tanks that are successful. Just for the sake of argument I'll use Diesel as that guy for his local club. Now he orders from so and so.. They tell him it's because of his lighting/parameters.. Then diesel who has the proof he knows what he's doing posts his displeasure. What does that company gain??

    I guess my point is that nature is pretty enough without the need to enhance it. Edit your photos to make them look professional but make them represent the coral that's being sold. And I guess the best way for us as hobbyists to stop the nonsense is to stop paying inflated prices for coral that doesn't really exist. Go with vendors you know already know you can trust.
     
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    I was thinking this was the other thread ;) but you get my point. I think that slo burn is beautiful in both photos.
     
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    This is about the only type of photography I see anymore. Facebook is loaded with it, hobbyist and vendors alike. I thought the goal was to have the photo represent the coral. I could not imagine or want to deal with the complaints the seller received from buys once the buys have placed the coral in their tank. Adams first pictures are a great example of what to look for.
     
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    It's the difference in a $30-$50 frag or a $250+frag. People want the new, unusual or rare. You can use this on common corals and make it appear to be something no one else has or can get.
     
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    A frustrating side effect of all of this is that there really are unique strains of coral that are worth some extra attention, but no way for hobbyists to recognize the real gems in the online environment with so many make-believe corals.
     
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    Sometimes, we have to look at ourselves as the problem. Not that it's our fault that we get swindled by coral pics that look insane. But, we're the ones sending $ to these people. We have the power.

    Support the good people in the industry who are honest and actually care about hobbyists. They were us before they got in the retail business. When we get a great frag thats just like the pic and comes in clean with no pests, we need to say something on these forums that supports that company/person.

    If one of you guys recommend someone to me I definitely pay attention. I know much effort everyone puts into their tanks here. I know we have a vendor experience section but it's just not used enough. I'm all for boycotting companies that alter photos.
     
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    Thanks for the write up. I'll have to try this out sometime
     
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