Fragging zoas question

[Speg]

I've seen a couple videos/threads showing how some people try to frag zoanthids. A while ago I tried to apply a single loose zoa to a rock with some super glue (not gel). The result was a zoa that died. I had two other zoas that died the same way..they discolored and died within a day or two.

I've been seeing people use the super glue (gel) and they claim this is the way they're doing zoas...did I go wrong because my glue wasn't gel or was it because there was no zoa-mat involved in the frag...or what?

 

[Murfman]

No telling what happened. I have glued Zoas upside down before, because it is hard to tell which end is up, when they are totally closed. Gel works because you can work with it and it doesn't run all over the place. I try and cut the rock out from under the zoa when I frag. Gives it a solid base to glue and less stress to the coral.

 

[Speg]

No telling what happened. I have glued Zoas upside down before, because it is hard to tell which end is up, when they are totally closed. Gel works because you can work with it and it doesn't run all over the place. I try and cut the rock out from under the zoa when I frag. Gives it a solid base to glue and less stress to the coral.

I see people doing it that way and I know for a fact that would work since you're really not touching the base at all...I see zoas to almost be simliar to anemones and I think they're actually related in some way...we all know you should never glue an anemone's foot....

I know I didn't glue mine upside down because they actually opened and I could see the color morphing quite quickly and dramatically...

I just fragged a single fire/ice zoa with the same method as before except I used gel..we'll see how it turns out..starting to open already.

 

[subdrive]

im not an expert as some here, but do frag my zoa regulary.
Its always better to frag with some of the rock still attached on the base of the zoa, and lost all the zoa that that simply loose from the colony.
I don't think its the glue. I have lost a lot of highend zoa when this happened, hope someone out there could put input on this issue as wall.

 

[johnanddawn]

zoas are easy
use a sharp razor i use a scalpol and get a little rock if you can but def as close as you can get to the base
gel is the best it sticks better and doesn't get all over everything
cut the zoa in a seperate container if possible, tupperwares work well - i always cut under water to avoid the the issues with toxins
put a dab of glue on your plug, stick zoa to it, dip back in tupperware, after about a minute place back in tank
if you want a bit of coral dip or revive sometimes helps to avoid bacterial infections

 

[subdrive]

Yes, but can someone tell us how to glue Zoa that has no attachement at the bottom, one's that gets loose from the colony?
is there a trick to it?
for me, without zoa having any attachement to anything on its base ended up dead.
Any succesful way of doing this would really help us.

 

[Speg]

Yes, but can someone tell us how to glue Zoa that has no attachement at the bottom, one's that gets loose from the colony?
is there a trick to it?
for me, without zoa having any attachement to anything on its base ended up dead.
Any succesful way of doing this would really help us.

Right, we all know that the rock helps and would be the reason why the zoa isn't dying because its foot isn't getting glued/blocked.

 

[jbrown11352]

I've glue'd the bare base down and never had a problem. Just make sure your not going over board with the amount of glue.

 

[Speg]

I've glue'd the bare base down and never had a problem. Just make sure your not going over board with the amount of glue.

I've been doing it a lot lately too and they've all been surviving..not sure what happened before...maybe it had something to do with the regular super glue and not the gel.