Haddoni Carpet Placement

[Overboard]

I had a total crash of my 365 gallons display following a power outage last year. A generator is now in place and I took the time to “fix” all the plumbing and electrical set up.

I am considering adding a Haddoni once the tank is fully stable, but it will be my first Haddoni in many years. I have always been concerned about fish being eaten by Haddoni but I do feel they can be strikingly beautiful. A red carpet has always been on my wish list. I have successfully kept Magnificas, Giganteas and Mertens over the years though. The Gigantea was well behaved but the Mag ate several fish and the Mertens walked quite a bit.

I think I can set up a location with a deep sand bed, strong light, and moderate flow out of the primary path of most fish. I will feed my fish on the opposite side of the tank. Still some risk to fish, I know.

Do you think the Haddoni would tend to walk around anyway? Any more ideas to encourage it to settle in?

Thanks!!

 

[exnisstech]

I will no longer keep haddoni with fish I value. A startled fish can swim into one. I had a green one in a 6ft 180 and lost several fish. It ate a small Picasso trigger and a fox face and powder blue tang died from stings before I removed it. I kept a blue later but in a dedicated tank.

 

[reefchi]

@Overboard wow your Magnifica anemone actually ate your fish? I thought it was just the carpet anemones that normally would eat fish.

 

[Overboard]

@Overboard wow your Magnifica anemone actually ate your fish? I thought it was just the carpet anemones that normally would eat fish.

Yep. A good size pyramid butterfly and a Lennardi wrasse. Surprised me!

 

[World Citizen]

If you have a Carpet you indeed introduce a risk of losing other life. Whether it is fish or coral... it is at a risk.

About the placement... you can't really decide 100% where it will sit, but yeah, giving it a clean area with some flow would probably keep him around there. I can't be sure here, but a true Haddoni will usually place it foot in the sand. BUT I currently have a friend with a Red Haddoni that seems to walk onto the rock and towards the light. So.. again, no reefer is sure what is going to happen.

I lost fish... I lost coral. If you do not want that to happen... don't place a carpet around them. That's my best guess.

 

[billysprout]

@Overboard wow your Magnifica anemone actually ate your fish? I thought it was just the carpet anemones that normally would eat fish.

mags are carpet anemones, i’ve seen 3ft diameter ones in videos

 

[Overboard]

Three feet is a really big mag. Mine was not that large, maybe 12 inches when it wanted to spread. Beefy anemone too. It was up on a pinnacle rock island and it stayed in place well. I kept a pair of perculas with it that spawned like clockwork.

 

[Overboard]

Can’t get the video to attach. Darn!

 

[backbayreef]

I used to have 4 Haddoni's mixed with RBTAs. My blue Haddoni ate more than $1k worth of fish so no more! I've since moved all carpets to a species-only tank with 2 clowns.

Don't risk it -- carpets WILL eat fish, just a matter of time.

 

[Overboard]

Blue Haddonis are beautiful!

 

[billysprout]

Three feet is a really big mag. Mine was not that large, maybe 12 inches when it wanted to spread. Beefy anemone too. It was up on a pinnacle rock island and it stayed in place well. I kept a pair of perculas with it that spawned like clockwork.

 

[billysprout]

To answer op’s question, haddoni will absolutely eat your fish and should be placed in a separate showcase tank. You can plumb it into your system if you want.

Best bet to keep it from moving, in my experience, is to give it a 5” deep sandbox with square edges (they love corners) in the highest light area of the tank. But it will still readily roam the tank, especially when first added, so you’ll need to protect wavemakers and intake ports accordingly.

you can conceal the sandbox with rocks and/or the wide circumference of the anemone. keep an eye on it for the first few weeks for signs of infection (gaping mouth, deflating/inflating when the lights go out)

 

[Overboard]

Thanks everyone!

 

[OrionN]

Carpet usually does not move around too much especially when you have a deep sand bed for it.
Fortunately I have not lost a lot of fish to my anemones, never to Magnifica, Malu, Crispa or Doreensis but certainly to Gigantea and Haddoni.

 

[OrionN]

IMO, of all the host anemones, Haddoni has the best colors. These are not even the best of the Haddoni.

 

[Overboard]

Those are so beautiful! The pic with the percula between the purple and blue anemones is just awesome.

I agree on Haddoni colors. They can be so intense.

 

[Segalplayer]

I’m trying to pick up the beauty, any tips?

Ps separate question can a rhitteri and a Hadonni co mingle in the same tank? Or do I need to split em up?

 

[D-Nak]

I’m trying to pick up the beauty, any tips?

Ps separate question can a rhitteri and a Hadonni co mingle in the same tank? Or do I need to split em up?

Give it at least 3" of sand so it can bury its foot, decent flow over the top of the oral disk, ideally pushing down on it (versus under it which tends to push up the disk), and ample light, and it should be fine.

I've had Ritteri with Haddoni in the same tank and they're fine.

 

[Segalplayer]

Give it at least 3" of sand so it can bury its foot, decent flow over the top of the oral disk, ideally pushing down on it (versus under it which tends to push up the disk), and ample light, and it should be fine.

I've had Ritteri with Haddoni in the same tank and they're fine.

Boom I did exactly that, I piled up some sand in the corner from the rest of the tank to make it bigger and supported with some frag rock I had.

I have an mp10 a bit above it so ill turn that down later tonight (it’s off currently) have a lagoon so it’s shallower tank.

I took a 2 hr vid once I put it in my tank (forgot my camera tripod grrr) and it was very cool to see it start digging itself down.

Thank you for the info I appreciate it! It was crazy how sticky the nem was and thick the base was when compared to other nems. Hope it does well and love it!

Ps these pics were from this am before I left work and turned the lights on to 5%, I will have to find out what light they were using at tongs to make it that crazy color but I did notice a poop load of alage in the two days they had that light over the nem at the store which was wild.

 

[atoll]

mags are carpet anemones, i’ve seen 3ft diameter ones in videos

Sorry I beg to differ. Magnificas are not carpet anemones. I have kept a number of Magnificas over the years and none have ever eat any of my fish. Here is a video of my current Magnifica house with many fish. Carpet anemonhave a much stronger sting and reside on the sand.