Help !!! No3 increase

[Miami Reef]

Phosphate seems really low.

 

[Mr Phu]

Phosphate seems really low.

Sir this Fauna No3 up content Potassium . Can i use overdose ?? My ICP result Potassium is 435 , is that oke ?

 

[Miami Reef]

Sir this Fauna No3 up content Potassium . Can i use overdose ?? My ICP result Potassium is 435 , is that oke ?

Oh, that’s potassium nitrate. I wouldn’t dose more of that.

Feed the tank more with foods.

 

[GARRIGA]

Speaking specifically to low nitrates. Perhaps remove the macroalgae and see how that goes. Then reduce the use of the skimmer, perhaps. Adding more of what system is reducing like butting head against wall.

 

[Mr Phu]

So i will feed more redsea ab+ right ?

Oh, that’s potassium nitrate. I wouldn’t dose more of that.

Feed the tank more with foods.

 

[SeaDweller]

I have a ICP test any advices for me

We have given you advice. But you’re not reading anything. Stop relying on ICP for the issue.

The issue is you’re probably starving the coral. So adding in NO3 and PO4 is helping but you’re removing it with your nutrient export. Just stop.

The more you chase ICP number and stuff like that, you’ll probably kill everything.

Just do some normal water changes, turn your skimmer down or off and don’t run the refugium long. Let the tank dirty up.

You still haven’t dipped anything. People have responded to you, but all you keep asking about is supplements. I’d just throw some fish food in there and let it decompose, every couple of days. Have you even tried anything we suggested?

Bình tĩnh đi không có gì lo hết.

 

[Mr Phu]

We have given you advice. But you’re not reading anything. Stop relying on ICP for the issue.

The issue is you’re probably starving the coral. So adding in NO3 and PO4 is helping but you’re removing it with your nutrient export. Just stop.

The more you chase ICP number and stuff like that, you’ll probably kill everything.

Just do some normal water changes, turn your skimmer down or off and don’t run the refugium long. Let the tank dirty up.

You still haven’t dipped anything. People have responded to you, but all you keep asking about is supplements. I’d just throw some fish food in there and let it decompose, every couple of days. Have you even tried anything we suggested?

Bình tĩnh đi không có gì lo hết.

Yes now i turn off skimmer already only use 2-3 hour a day . I also cut of a light time from macro algae . Should i have to feed more coral ?? I have redsea Ab+ and reefroid . Today my po4 a little rasing to 0.6 ppm

 

[Miami Reef]

Nutrients aren’t the reason the corals are dying. I have a lot of experience with acros and mariculture acros.

The corals aren’t pale nor bleached out, which implies they have enough nutrients.

STN isn’t a symptom of low nutrients IME.

 

[Mr Phu]

Nutrients aren’t the reason the corals are dying. I have a lot of experience with acros and mariculture acros.

The corals aren’t pale nor bleached out, which implies they have enough nutrients.

STN isn’t a symptom of low nutrients IME.

The corals turning pale and starting STN that my symptoms

 

[Miami Reef]

I see. Hopefully someone can pop in and give their advice.

Are phosphates really at 0.6ppm? Or did you mean 0.06ppm?

 

[Mr Phu]

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I see. Hopefully someone can pop in and give their advice.

Are phosphates really at 0.6ppm? Or did you mean 0.06ppm?

I just check for today by Hanna checker is 0.24 ppm and No3 still Zero

 

[Miami Reef]

Good. Don’t add anymore reef roids. You have enough phosphate.

Can you get ammonium bicarbonate from Amazon (food-grade?)

Amazon.com

Corals much prefer ammonia over nitrate. Just dose this 2-3 times per day and forget about the nitrate kits for now.

DIY Ammonia dosing for low nitrate systems

Some reef aquaria have chronic low nitrogen availability. One indicator is very low nitrate. Nitrate dosing is a fine remedy, but it is possible that ammonia dosing may be more beneficial for some organisms since ammonia can be energetically easier to assimilate than is nitrate. For this...

www.reef2reef.com

 

[Mr Phu]

Yes

Good. Don’t add anymore reef roids. You have enough phosphate.

Can you get ammonium bicarbonate from Amazon (food-grade?)

Amazon.com

Corals much prefer ammonia over nitrate. Just dose this 2-3 times per day and forget about the nitrate kits for now.

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[Mr Phu]

Good. Don’t add anymore reef roids. You have enough phosphate.

Can you get ammonium bicarbonate from Amazon (food-grade?)

Amazon.com

Corals much prefer ammonia over nitrate. Just dose this 2-3 times per day and forget about the nitrate kits for now.

DIY Ammonia dosing for low nitrate systems

Some reef aquaria have chronic low nitrogen availability. One indicator is very low nitrate. Nitrate dosing is a fine remedy, but it is possible that ammonia dosing may be more beneficial for some organisms since ammonia can be energetically easier to assimilate than is nitrate. For this...

www.reef2reef.com

Today, I just removed the algae from the filter to increase the NO3 levels. Do you think I should turn off the skimmer completely, or just run it for a few hours a day? Currently, my NO3 is at 0, and my PO4 has increased slightly to 0.3 ppm after turning off the skimmer. I am also using Rowa Phos to control PO4.

 

[Miami Reef]

I wouldn’t turn off the skimmer at all.

Corals can actually tolerate nitrate limitation very well.

Phosphate deficiency promotes coral bleaching and is reflected by the ultrastructure of symbiotic dinoflagellates - PMC

Enrichment of reef environments with dissolved inorganic nutrients is considered a major threat to the survival of corals living in symbiosis with dinoflagellates (Symbiodinium sp.). We argue, however, that the direct negative effects on the ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

If the algae was growing well, you likely had enough ammonia in the tank.

You can increase the nitrate by dosing ammonium bicarbonate (any excess with turn into nitrate.) Just follow the ammonium article above.

 

[Mr Phu]

Thanks

I wouldn’t turn off the skimmer at all.

Corals can actually tolerate nitrate limitation very well.

Phosphate deficiency promotes coral bleaching and is reflected by the ultrastructure of symbiotic dinoflagellates - PMC

Enrichment of reef environments with dissolved inorganic nutrients is considered a major threat to the survival of corals living in symbiosis with dinoflagellates (Symbiodinium sp.). We argue, however, that the direct negative effects on the ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

If the algae was growing well, you likely had enough ammonia in the tank.

You can increase the nitrate by dosing ammonium bicarbonate (any excess with turn into nitrate.) Just follow the ammonium article above.

Thanks Sir so should u move all the algae out ?

 

[Mels_Reef]

These white things are the flatworms.

I sacrificed a coral and dipped it in RO/DI water to diagnose the issue. RO/DI will kill the coral, but I needed to identify it quickly and didn’t have Coral RX. It was worth it in the long run.

If CoralRX is so good, how did you get AEFW?

 

[Mr Phu]

If CoralRX is so good, how did you get AEFW?

No i dip already nothing in there . I think the problem is lack of nutrition because without fishes

 

[Mels_Reef]

The corals turning pale and starting STN that my symptoms

Those are definitely signs of acro corals being starved. Corals need more than just NO3, PO4 and light. They need bacteria. Fish poop is a great way to keep bacteria cycling in the tank. Since you can’t have fish for a while I would at least try to add a lot of snails and other inverts that can help make bacteria as well as increase your nutrients. In all honesty, it is extremely difficult to maintain an SPS system without fish. The fish provide a great source of nutrient import. Hope this helps…

 

[Miami Reef]

If CoralRX is so good, how did you get AEFW?

Because I didn’t dip and QT all the acros I got at the time.

Also, I don’t recall saying coral RX was “so good.”

It’s good for identifying flatworms because the dip is clear, unlike with bayer dips.