Help with tank test results. Pretty confused.

[brandon429]

no confirmation of this cycle is required, because its two months old and already stocked with living animals

non cycled tanks can't keep fish alive for two months, only a cycled tank does that


per rule of surface area and updated cycling science, there are no reef displays currently in half-cycle status.

we have simply here digital vs non digital ammonia testing impacts.

 

[brandon429]

that api reading is found in a million currently running reef tanks, it means nothing.

post a picture of this running reef please/pics are what prove cycle status, and time known underwater, not api testing or red sea testing or any non digital testing. those only cause doubt

this thread is handy for our false cycle stall study thread because we have someone here already with a fully running reef tank showing problem ammonia, even though that can't happen in a reef display. this is api showing what we expect it to show; not a broken cycle.

a full tank shot showing clear water accepting feed and waste daily, not crashing, open corals and fish positioned correctly vs hovering near death at the top unable to breathe will be closing proof

Taricha your post hinted to me there's an example on earth of a display not being cycled at this stage

 

[brandon429]

a neat pattern I'm finding in ammonia alert posts is that the thread title is never about loss which is the impact from any reef display failing to control ammonia. in 100% of ammonia alert posts about reef displays, the thread emerges due to a non digital test kit reading as seen by rules of old cycling science.

there are occasionally posts about fish loss that involve skipping disease preps, then blended with those api readings above found on thousands of reefs the cycle gets blamed for what skipping fish disease preps caused.

quick summary old vs new cycling science:

old cycling science accepts the stated test kit levels without question nor context comparison to ten thousand + digital cycles we have now on file anyone can search, they're all pretty much ready in 48 hours.

even if a reef tank didn't use seneye to prove its timeline, it still follows seneye timing because we're all copying in-tank ratios that always lend ammonia control just fine in post-cycle reefs.

if a non digital cycling kit says not cycled, old cycling science agrees and something is bought to shore up the dying cycle.

new cycling science will never doubt ammonia control in a reef tank beyond day ten until new cycling charts showing ammonia control taking longer than ten days are printed. all cycling charts going to back to 1966 show ten day compliance for a reason/supported by all seneye cycles in 2023. nobody's cycle takes beyond ten days unless its uncured ocean rock or fully unassisted dry starts, which nobody does. non digital test kits are solely to blame for the concept of a stalled cycle, which doesn't occur in reefing.

nobody is going to believe that reef cycles don't stall until a new macna speaker overrides the one that told us reef cycles stall. it will take macna speakers a little while to catch up to what's on the forums.

 

[brandon429]

Cichlid Dad's pic is very very pertinent

that's a high surface area reef, it can't ever suffer from ammonia noncontrol unless ten dead fish litter the tank and are left to rot. ammonia won't rise before a fish kill in a running reef, it rises only after.

@Pseudoskill
cant wait to see full tank pic like Cichlid Dads, the surface area and overall presentation via pics will be the same only the rocks likely not as pigmented/aged. it's still a fully cycled tank though, at month 2 of carrying livestock and daily feed= hoping to verify this via pics of the tank.

 

[Garf]

I just did a ATI test same as you same reading. No way I have ammonia in the tank and zero everything else. 90 gal w/ refuge 7 small fish.

You got a bacterial bloom going on? Or is it just a trick of the light?

 

[Cichlid Dad]

You got a bacterial bloom going on? Or is it just a trick of the light?

Bad camera on my phone, LOL!

 

[Cichlid Dad]

You got a bacterial bloom going on? Or is it just a trick of the light?

And a Clark clown who likes to play in the sand!