Hydros Kraken vs WaveEngine

[Sactoreefer]

I'm looking to buy either a WaveEngine + Kraken or preferably just a Kraken as it should meet my needs for 12v and 24v inputs. I haven't seen any discussion on if there is any functionality difference between the two. Can the Kraken provide direct drive variable flow to 24v powerheads the same way that the WaveEngine does? I will be controlling a Reef Octopus Varios 4 as well as a couple of return pumps (two Jebao SLW-30 are what I have right now but they are kind of loud, I would upgrade to a gyre, 2 octo pulses, or MP10).

I already have a Hydros Launch so i am invested in their ecosystem.

Thanks for any insight.

 

[tbrown]

I don't believe that Force ports work the same as the Direct Drive. It's technically a different port - Force instead of Pump Output.

 

[Connor At CoralVue]

The KRAKEN and WaveEngine are totally different products.

The FORCE Ports (RED) on a KRAKEN provide 24v DC Power. This replaces up to 8x of those black power brick under your tank....as long as they are 24v DC, and less than 8amps. The DRIVE Ports (ORANGE) provide power to 12v DC Devices, eliminating 4 plugs.

WaveEngine is a pump controller, and you can plug many brand pumps into it via Pump WAVE Ports (Yellow).

A KRAKEN + a WaveEngine, the KRAKEN would supply direct 24v power to the WaveEngine, eliminating the WaveEngine Power Supply. It would also waterproof the power supply.

Using your Reef Octopus VarioS 4 as an example, you would have 4 options w/ HYDROS.

1) Power via standard wall outlet, control via 0-10v OUT Port on a WaveEnginev2 or Control X4. No POWER coming from HYDROS, just 0-10v Control.

2) Power and Control via a WaveEngine Port. Eliminates Power Supply from VarioS, full controllablility via HYDROS with ultra customization.

3) Power Via KRAKEN, Eliminate VarioS PSU, battery backup, Control via Reef Octopus pump controller. We can still program the KRAKEN Force Port to turn off in say Water Change Mode.

4) KRAKEN + WaveEngine, KRAKEN supplies power to WaveEngine, provides battery backup to all the pumps on the WaveEngine.

 

[Sactoreefer]

Thank you both for the answers, I guess it was wishful thinking that the Kraken 24v ports can provide the same level of control that the WaveEngine does lol.

 

[n2585722]

Thank you both for the answers, I guess it was wishful thinking that the Kraken 24v ports can provide the same level of control that the WaveEngine does lol.

The Wave Engine direct drive ports are for driving a BLDC type motor and that requires pulses of power in a sequence that depends on which direction you want it to go and how fast you want it to run. This is also dependent on the particular motor you have hooked up to it also. So when setting the port up on the Wave Engine you will need to select which brand and model of pump you are hooking up to the port. The Kraken force port is a constant 24v DC output that you can turn on or off.

 

[Anonymous'Reefer90]

KRAKEN y WaveEngine son productos totalmente diferentes.

Los puertos FORCE (ROJOS) de un KRAKEN proporcionan alimentación de 24 V CC. Esto reemplaza hasta 8 de esos bloques de alimentación negros que se encuentran debajo del tanque... siempre que sean de 24 V CC y de menos de 8 A. Los puertos DRIVE (NARANJA) proporcionan alimentación a dispositivos de 12 V CC, lo que elimina la necesidad de 4 enchufes.

WaveEngine es un controlador de bomba al que puedes conectar bombas de muchas marcas a través de los puertos WAVE de bomba (amarillos).

Un KRAKEN + un WaveEngine: el KRAKEN suministraría 24 V de potencia directa al WaveEngine, lo que eliminaría la fuente de alimentación del WaveEngine. Además, la fuente de alimentación sería impermeable.

Usando su Reef Octopus VarioS 4 como ejemplo, tendría 4 opciones con HYDROS.

1) Alimentación a través de un tomacorriente de pared estándar, control a través del puerto de salida de 0 a 10 V en un WaveEnginev2 o Control X4. No hay ALIMENTACIÓN proveniente de HYDROS, solo control de 0 a 10 V.

2) Alimentación y control a través de un puerto WaveEngine. Elimina la necesidad de suministro de energía de VarioS, control total a través de HYDROS con personalización extrema.

3) Alimentación a través de KRAKEN, eliminación de la fuente de alimentación VarioS, respaldo de batería, control a través del controlador de bomba Reef Octopus. Aún podemos programar el puerto de fuerza KRAKEN para que se apague en el modo de cambio de agua, por ejemplo.

4) KRAKEN + WaveEngine, KRAKEN suministra energía a WaveEngine y proporciona batería de respaldo a todas las bombas de WaveEngine.

El Kraken puede alimentar un Vectra L2 en el puerto de 24 voltios?