Hydros WaveEngine Flow Schedule Help

[JdubC]

I have two Icecap 2k on opposite sides of my 48” display tank.

I am looking to have them run on alternating Triangle Wave patterns, where the left runs for 20 minutes and then the right for 20 minutes. I don’t want them running at the same time or overlapping, which is what happens with them set as antisync.

Is this something I can do through the “advanced settings” or perhaps by setting up two schedules?

Any help would be great.

 

[Rocks reef]

Is there a master/slave option? I'd skim through advance settings, or as you mentioned setup two different schedules. I'm thinking the two different schedules would be difficult to get the timing right though.

 

[Connor At CoralVue]

After setting up each pump output, you would then create a schedule, telling them what to do.

In that schedule, you will select what pattern you wish to run, you had mentioned triangle.

In that schedule, you will then set the pumps position. Front, Back, Left, Right

That positioning is what will get the pumps to act in an antisync fashion.

You would also be able to set your cycle duration, 20 minutes.

 

[JdubC]

Thanks to you both for the response.

The issue with using one schedule for both pumps in “antisync” is that they are going to run at the same time unless I am using the constant speed function. Any other function will have one ramping up and the other down simultaneously.

I want it so that one runs while the other is off and then they switch.

I was able to figure it out with separate schedules for the left and right pumps. I went with 15 minutes as the maths were easier.

Essentially, left side pump starts at 6:00am and runs a 15 minute cycle every 30 minutes. The right side pump starts at 6:15am and does the same.

I then created a second set of two schedules for night flow.

Am I wrong on my interpretation of the “antisync” functionality?

 

[Hooz]

I want to do something similar, but I also want to change the flow (pattern and/or speed) throughout the day. I rotate sides every 2 hours.

With standalone pumps it's pretty easy... Separate schedules for each pump, on at the pattern and speed I want for 2 hours, then off for 2 hours, then back on at a new pattern and/or speed for 2 hours, then off for 2 hours, etc, etc. One pump is on while the other is off. Easy.

It took me about 5 minutes to do both schedules for another tank in the Jebao app, but I am struggling to figure out how to do that with the WaveEngine.

 

[Hooz]

To clarify, I'd like something like this...

 

[JdubC]

To clarify, I'd like something like this...

Unfortunately, because you want different constant speeds at each interval, you will likely need to create a separate schedule for each.

You could probably incorporate the “off” times into the immediately prior schedule. For instance, left side schedule 1 can start at 8:30 and run once a day for 4 hours with a run time of 2 hours at 80%. Then do right side schedule 1 the same, but starting at 10:30. And so on.

You may even be able to work it so the the several at the same speed could be on one schedule, eg left side 1 & 4 are both at lps 80%. You could set up a schedule that runs twice a day for four hours at that rate for two of the four set 12 hours apart.


I don’t think there is a cleaner way to do it. All of the preset anti-syncs have the opposite running at some level, not off.

 

[Hooz]

Unfortunately, because you want different constant speeds at each interval, you will likely need to create a separate schedule for each.

You could probably incorporate the “off” times into the immediately prior schedule. For instance, left side schedule 1 can start at 8:30 and run once a day for 4 hours with a run time of 2 hours at 80%. Then do right side schedule 1 the same, but starting at 10:30. And so on.

You may even be able to work it so the the several at the same speed could be on one schedule, eg left side 1 & 4 are both at lps 80%. You could set up a schedule that runs twice a day for four hours at that rate for two of the four set 12 hours apart.


I don’t think there is a cleaner way to do it. All of the preset anti-syncs have the opposite running at some level, not off.

That makes sense. So each pump will basically have six individual programs (4 hour blocks) with a 2 hour runtime. I guess where I'm getting confused is the interval.

The interval defaults to 10s, so I'm assuming I'd just leave that alone, right? I guess I'm not understanding what that setting actually does in a setup like this where each "block" only runs once per day.

 

[JdubC]

Unfortunately, because you want different constant speeds at each interval, you will likely need to create a separate schedule for each.

You could probably incorporate the “off” times into the immediately prior schedule. For instance, left side schedule 1 can start at 8:30 and run once a day for 4 hours with a run time of 2 hours at 80%. Then do right side schedule 1 the same, but starting at 10:30. And so on.

You may even be able to work it so the the several at the same speed could be on one schedule, eg left side 1 & 4 are both at lps 80%. You could set up a schedule that runs twice a day for four hours at that rate for two of the four set 12 hours apart.


I don’t think there is a cleaner way to do it. All of the preset anti-syncs have the opposite running at some level, not off.

That makes sense. So each pump will basically have six individual programs (4 hour blocks) with a 2 hour runtime. I guess where I'm getting confused is the interval.

The interval defaults to 10s, so I'm assuming I'd just leave that alone, right? I guess I'm not understanding what that setting actually does in a setup like this where each "block" only runs once per day.

Ah. Yes. I see.

So for you, the run interval should be the 4 hours.

Here is mine:




It starts at 6:15am
Count = 28
Run time = 15mins
Run interval = 30mins

So, it “runs” for 30 minutes, but only the first 15 are actually “on,” while the other 15 is off.

It goes 28 times, which is 14 hours.

I set the other gyre with the exact same settings but starting at 6:00am. So they in essence alternate.

 

[Hooz]

Ah. Yes. I see.

So for you, the run interval should be the 4 hours.

Here is mine:




It starts at 6:15am
Count = 28
Run time = 15mins
Run interval = 30mins

So, it “runs” for 30 minutes, but only the first 15 are actually “on,” while the other 15 is off.

It goes 28 times, which is 14 hours.

I set the other gyre with the exact same settings but starting at 6:00am. So they in essence alternate.

Makes perfect sense! So if I have 4 hour periods back-to-back with the same settings, I can just increase the count.

That clears it up for me! Thank you!

 

[JdubC]

Ah. Yes. I see.

So for you, the run interval should be the 4 hours.

Here is mine:




It starts at 6:15am
Count = 28
Run time = 15mins
Run interval = 30mins

So, it “runs” for 30 minutes, but only the first 15 are actually “on,” while the other 15 is off.

It goes 28 times, which is 14 hours.

I set the other gyre with the exact same settings but starting at 6:00am. So they in essence alternate.

Makes perfect sense! So if I have 4 hour periods back-to-back with the same settings, I can just increase the count.

That clears it up for me! Thank you!

No worries.

Glad to have this community. Helps me a lot; so nice to be able to help too.

 

[JdubC]

Got a weird issue @Connor At CoralVue.

I have my icecap 2k’s set to speed range of 25-100%.

Then I have my night flow set to 30% constant speed.

However, when I look at the status, it is running at 47%.

This is happening on both gyres. Running on alternating schedules.

Thoughts on why the speeds are not correct?

 

[n2585722]

Got a weird issue @Connor At CoralVue.

I have my icecap 2k’s set to speed range of 25-100%.

Then I have my night flow set to 30% constant speed.

However, when I look at the status, it is running at 47%.

This is happening on both gyres. Running on alternating schedules.

Thoughts on why the speeds are not correct?

The schedule percentage fits into the minimum and maximum set on the pump. So 30% in the schedule would be 30% between 25% and 100% so 47% is probably right. since 1% would actually be about 26%.

 

[JdubC]

Got a weird issue @Connor At CoralVue.

I have my icecap 2k’s set to speed range of 25-100%.

Then I have my night flow set to 30% constant speed.

However, when I look at the status, it is running at 47%.

This is happening on both gyres. Running on alternating schedules.

Thoughts on why the speeds are not correct?

The schedule percentage fits into the minimum and maximum set on the pump. So 30% in the schedule would be 30% between 25% and 100% so 47% is probably right. since 1% would actually be about 26%.

Interesting.

The way the online instructions on Hydros website says, if speed is set at 25%-75% on the pump, then the following would be what happens in the schedule:

1% = 25%
100% = 75%

Your math makes perfect sense, and is likely what is happening, but this contradicts the instructions on their site.

 

[JdubC]

Okay. I think I see your point as I reread the site. Plus the math works out.

Thanks.