I ORDERED WITHOUT A PERMIT

Ilikefishtheyarecool · Jul 25, 2023

I ordered some fish from China without a permit. I don’t know what is going to happen. Does anyone have experience with this? Is the fish going to get seized and killed? Am I going to get in trouble?

fodsod · Jul 25, 2023

I'm not 100% on how they handle animals but I have plenty of experience with international shipping/US customs.

Most likely it will just get seized by customs and disposed of. You'll get a letter stating that it's been seized and you can come claim it if you have the proper paperwork. Obviously, the fish will be dead by then.

Lowell Lemon · Jul 25, 2023

Ilikefishtheyarecool said:
I ordered some fish from China without a permit. I don’t know what is going to happen. Does anyone have experience with this? Is the fish going to get seized and killed? Am I going to get in trouble?

I think it depends on if they are CITES listed or not. The shipper should have the necessary export documents with your shipment. Or like many purchases from China they just took your money and nothing will get shipped. Check out the complaints about Alibaba online to see what I mean.

exnisstech · Jul 25, 2023

I'm just curious why you would order fish from China? I doubt they would even survive the trip. Also being live stock I would assume they would have to be received at customs by an importer :thinking-face:

Ilikefishtheyarecool · Jul 25, 2023

fodsod said:
I'm not 100% on how they handle animals but I have plenty of experience with international shipping/US customs.

Most likely it will just get seized by customs and disposed of. You'll get a letter stating that it's been seized and you can come claim it if you have the proper paperwork. Obviously, the fish will be dead by then.

Is there any way to quickly get a permit? What do you do when you ship international?

Ilikefishtheyarecool · Jul 25, 2023

exnisstech said:
I'm just curious why you would order fish from China? I doubt they would even survive the trip. Also being live stock I would assume they would have to be received at customs by an importer :thinking-face:

I just kind of wanted to test it. The website I bought through is a 3rd party that just helps ship and everything and they didn’t have it marked as something that would get stopped. They typically will mark things saying that they are either not going to be allowed or will get seized etc.

Ilikefishtheyarecool · Jul 25, 2023

Lowell Lemon said:
I think it depends on if they are CITES listed or not. The shipper should have the necessary export documents with your shipment. Or like many purchases from China they just took your money and nothing will get shipped. Check out the complaints about Alibaba online to see what I mean.

So your sayin there is a chance that they actually have the correct documents to ship them?

RedoubtReef · Jul 25, 2023

I do hope you get your fish.

stoney7713 · Jul 25, 2023

Are they actually shipping from China? They usually go through a trans shipper. They have all the paperwork. Sometimes you have to pay the trans shipper a handling fee if it wasn't built into the original purchase.

paragrouper · Jul 25, 2023

Ilikefishtheyarecool said:
So your sayin there is a chance that they actually have the correct documents to ship them?

Doubtful.

this article does not specifically pertain to marine life, but it’s a good place to start.

Link

CallMeChris · Jul 25, 2023

JOOC, what did you order?

KrisReef · Jul 25, 2023

blaxsun · Jul 25, 2023

KrisReef said:

Just your average day at Petco, lol.

56longroof · Jul 25, 2023

exnisstech said:
I'm just curious why you would order fish from China? I doubt they would even survive the trip. Also being live stock I would assume they would have to be received at customs by an importer :thinking-face:

This

workhz · Jul 25, 2023

Wasn't this the same question you asked in November? Ordering from China or a wholesaler. You got some answers then but I guess as long as the investment is minimal (and I'm ignoring fish dying for now) then you'll get real life answers now vs theoreticals. Is this still for a 6G? Seems like a lot of effort and risk to go through. Now if it was a 600G I can see the logic.

revhtree · Jul 25, 2023

workhz said:
Wasn't this the same question you asked in November? Ordering from China or a wholesaler. You got some answers then but I guess as long as the investment is minimal (and I'm ignoring fish dying for now) then you'll get real life answers now vs theoreticals. Is this still for a 6G? Seems like a lot of effort and risk to go through. Now if it was a 600G I can see the logic.

I can't find it, do you have a link?