Hello, I have done hours of reading everyone posts about Ich Velvet Brook, etc..
I have a new carefully setup and cycled 750xxl.
Ammonia 0
Nitrate 15 (feeding alot)
Alk 7.7
Ca 460
Temp 78-79
Water 1.024 - Tropic Marine with RODI 7 stage
180+ lbs of rock, 60 lbs sand argonite
I had introduced fish week by week and Ammonia always stays at or near 0. Prior to this incident I had
3 Green Chromis
4 Blue Chromis
5 Longspine Cardinal
2 Small Hippo (one yellow belly)
1 Gem Tang 3"
1 Vlamingi 2.5"
2 Dispar Anthias small
2 Lyretail Anthias small
4 baby clownfish
1 Chalk Bass
1 Tobacco Bass
1 Small Yellow Mimic Tang
CUC
The above lived in harmony for weeks with no issue
I added from a seller in in Socal that professionally QTs fish for his customers. He sells properly QT and non QT fish and I bought the QT.
I dropped in 8 lyretail, 1 small blonde naso, 1 small whitetail. When I added them into the tank , one of the lyretails immediately sank to the bottom and over time his back fin started disintegrating and he died same day. I told the seller he said it may be that he was being picked on, but no one was picking on him.
1-2 days after I started to notice spots on my blue tangs and smaller spots on other fish. On the tangs initially it appeared to be ich, but my aquarium service person that I have used for years and I could not really figure out if its a bad case of ich or velvet. There are a lot of small dots coating the fins and fish. You can see a pic of my blue tangs which you can see some of those dots turn into darker areas and you can see my dead white tail (not sure if that is just decomposition in terms of coloration)
Fast forward 4-5 days and now dead:
Gem , 4 clown fish (when these died they were very skinny and turned a hazy white/kakhi color, but never showed signs of bumps /holes etc), white tail, and a mimic tang.
My fish did not swim into the powerhead , no flashing, the gem was eating until he died and the 2 hippo tangs I have look terrible condition but they are still eating like pigs.
I caught whatever fish I could for now and have them in a QT with cupramine, but will need to use a fish trap for the others. I understand the options I have for treating for velvet/ich/brook etc..
However, what is strange is that not all of my fish seem to be affected. The lyretails, chromis, bass, dont show signs of any infection and neither does the vlamingi. Then theres another 10 fish that show mild signs of dots on their fins, but theyre hanging out and eating just fine.
If this sounds like bad case of ich, I would be inclined to ride it out and just manage ich long term in my tank as I get alot of frags etc and permanent QT in my house with a child is not an easy task.
If this can not be ich and it is 100% velvet, why are 50% of my fish unaffected, 40% barely affected but 10% dropped dead so fast? Its already been about 4-5 days.
Thanks for your insights, and I know, I should always QT the fish before adding into my tank.
I have a new carefully setup and cycled 750xxl.
Ammonia 0
Nitrate 15 (feeding alot)
Alk 7.7
Ca 460
Temp 78-79
Water 1.024 - Tropic Marine with RODI 7 stage
180+ lbs of rock, 60 lbs sand argonite
I had introduced fish week by week and Ammonia always stays at or near 0. Prior to this incident I had
3 Green Chromis
4 Blue Chromis
5 Longspine Cardinal
2 Small Hippo (one yellow belly)
1 Gem Tang 3"
1 Vlamingi 2.5"
2 Dispar Anthias small
2 Lyretail Anthias small
4 baby clownfish
1 Chalk Bass
1 Tobacco Bass
1 Small Yellow Mimic Tang
CUC
The above lived in harmony for weeks with no issue
I added from a seller in in Socal that professionally QTs fish for his customers. He sells properly QT and non QT fish and I bought the QT.
I dropped in 8 lyretail, 1 small blonde naso, 1 small whitetail. When I added them into the tank , one of the lyretails immediately sank to the bottom and over time his back fin started disintegrating and he died same day. I told the seller he said it may be that he was being picked on, but no one was picking on him.
1-2 days after I started to notice spots on my blue tangs and smaller spots on other fish. On the tangs initially it appeared to be ich, but my aquarium service person that I have used for years and I could not really figure out if its a bad case of ich or velvet. There are a lot of small dots coating the fins and fish. You can see a pic of my blue tangs which you can see some of those dots turn into darker areas and you can see my dead white tail (not sure if that is just decomposition in terms of coloration)
Fast forward 4-5 days and now dead:
Gem , 4 clown fish (when these died they were very skinny and turned a hazy white/kakhi color, but never showed signs of bumps /holes etc), white tail, and a mimic tang.
My fish did not swim into the powerhead , no flashing, the gem was eating until he died and the 2 hippo tangs I have look terrible condition but they are still eating like pigs.
I caught whatever fish I could for now and have them in a QT with cupramine, but will need to use a fish trap for the others. I understand the options I have for treating for velvet/ich/brook etc..
However, what is strange is that not all of my fish seem to be affected. The lyretails, chromis, bass, dont show signs of any infection and neither does the vlamingi. Then theres another 10 fish that show mild signs of dots on their fins, but theyre hanging out and eating just fine.
If this sounds like bad case of ich, I would be inclined to ride it out and just manage ich long term in my tank as I get alot of frags etc and permanent QT in my house with a child is not an easy task.
If this can not be ich and it is 100% velvet, why are 50% of my fish unaffected, 40% barely affected but 10% dropped dead so fast? Its already been about 4-5 days.
Thanks for your insights, and I know, I should always QT the fish before adding into my tank.
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