In what order can i add multiple tangs?

nanomania · Jan 4, 2017

I have a Philippines yellow tang already in my 42g, but as iv got my new 130g (cycling) im planning to this new tank. Im plannin on 2 more tangs:
1) sailfin or scopas.
2) regal or powder blue.

In what order should i add?

My yellow phili is approx 2.5" only as of now.
Here is a pic.

Oscar47f · Jan 4, 2017

adding them at the same time is one of the safest methods or adding then at night...

nanomania · Jan 4, 2017

Oscar47f said:
adding them at the same time is one of the safest methods or adding then at night...

Im afraid of the sudden increase in bioload.. however i have always added the fishes at night, it has always worked except for royal dottys, but not much experience with tangs multiple tangs.

What if i add the phili first, then add the other 2 together?

Oscar47f · Jan 4, 2017

You might be fine especially if you prepare before hand, but if not them i would probably do what you suggested, and remember the powder blue or regal blue are more prone to ich, and if there is a lot of stress in the tank every one can get infected..

nanomania · Jan 4, 2017

Oscar47f said:
You might be fine especially if you prepare before hand, but if not them i would probably do what you suggested, and remember the powder blue or regal blue are more prone to ich, and if there is a lot of stress in the tank every one can get infected..

None of the fishes are added before qt.

Oscar47f · Jan 4, 2017

@saltyfilmfolks What do you think?

Oscar47f · Jan 4, 2017

Qt does not always solve the problem of ich poor husbandry can cause ich regardless of qt procedures, and im not saying it will happen but it can if all these tangs don't get a long lol hopefully others pitch in some advice I've trie keeping 3 tangs in my 120 sadly the powder brown had to go because my sailfin and yellow tang were getting too stressed and every one had ich...

nanomania · Jan 4, 2017

Oscar47f said:
Qt does not always solve the problem of ich poor husbandry can cause ich regardless of qt procedures, and im not saying it will happen but it can if all these tangs don't get a long lol hopefully others pitch in some advice I've trie keeping 3 tangs in my 120 sadly the powder brown had to go because my sailfin and yellow tang were getting too stressed and every one had ich...

Yea, im more intrested in regal, as powders are way too agressive. Have red some horror stories.. lol. Any experience with regals?

nanomania · Jan 4, 2017

I hate agressive fishes

Kershaw · Jan 4, 2017

I agree that adding multipul tangs can be stressful. But I do Believe with proper qt a tang can be Ich free. Fish health can decline with stress with out Ich being present. But just adding a coral can introduce Ich to otherwise a Ich free tank.

Oscar47f · Jan 4, 2017

I do have some experience with regals and they are typically shy in comparison to powder blues but every fish is different... and ich isn't a problem for me if you keep feeding properly and aggression to a minimum, and you can try the powder but just make sure you can take the fish out if anything does happen...

saltyphish · Jan 4, 2017

Qt done properly can and will prevent ich. Ich is introduced by infected fish or tranfer from frags or liverock from an infected system. All my fish go into qt when purchased and treated with copper or ttm to ensure ich free. Also any frags or lr added goes into my observation tank for at least 72 days or more to make sure no parasites. This tank has no fish so the parasite can not survive without a host

nanomania · Jan 4, 2017

Kershaw said:
I agree that adding multipul tangs can be stressful. But I do Believe with proper qt a tang can be Ich free. Fish health can decline with stress with out Ich being present. But just adding a coral can introduce Ich to otherwise a Ich free tank.

True..

Triggreef · Jan 4, 2017

Oscar47f said:
Qt does not always solve the problem of ich poor husbandry can cause ich regardless of qt procedures, and im not saying it will happen but it can if all these tangs don't get a long lol hopefully others pitch in some advice I've trie keeping 3 tangs in my 120 sadly the powder brown had to go because my sailfin and yellow tang were getting too stressed and every one had ich...

Completely wrong about ich. Qt and proper equipment techniques will keep it out forever. Stress will not cause it, but if it's already there can certainly cause outbreaks. Please look at scientific facts before spreading wrong information.

As for the tangs, pick your 3 and add them at the same time once the tank is fully cycled. Add any other less aggressive fish before the tangs to let them establish themselves, Such as butterflies which tangs will not like later. I would suggest 2 tangs you really like rather than 3. I've had 6 at once in my 200g which was fine as far as aggression there was none. But when they get 6" + man it begins to take a toll on nutrients in the tank. I ended up removing 4 and keeping a purple and convict as my favorites.

I have a kole, yellow, and powder blue in my 125 which is softies which don't mind the higher nutrients.

And none of my tanks have ich. Even so, i still do not share equipment between them.

Oscar47f · Jan 4, 2017

Triggreef said:
Completely wrong about ich. Qt and proper equipment techniques will keep it out forever. Stress will not cause it, but if it's already there can certainly cause outbreaks. Please look at scientific facts before spreading wrong information.

As for the tangs, pick your 3 and add them at the same time once the tank is fully cycled. Add any other less aggressive fish before the tangs to let them establish themselves, Such as butterflies which tangs will not like later. I would suggest 2 tangs you really like rather than 3. I've had 6 at once in my 200g which was fine as far as aggression there was none. But when they get 6" + man it begins to take a toll on nutrients in the tank. I ended up removing 4 and keeping a purple and convict as my favorites.

I have a kole, yellow, and powder blue in my 125 which is softies which don't mind the higher nutrients.

And none of my tanks have ich. Even so, i still do not share equipment between them.

cool man thanks for the info a simple hey you're wrong would've been nice...

Triggreef · Jan 4, 2017

Also i will add I've had powder blue get pretty big and never had aggression unless new fish were added after. If you go with pbt make it your last fish for the tank. But i do feed pretty heavy, nori everyday, live Blackworms almost everyday, pellets here & there, mysis daily several times usually.

Oscar47f · Jan 4, 2017

and im not completely wrong, there are slip ups and things do happen so i was just compensating for that...

Triggreef · Jan 4, 2017

Oscar47f said:
cool man thanks for the info a simple hey you're wrong would've been nice...

Not trying to be rude, unfortunately a lot of people spread exactly what you said because unfortunately they get it from the guy at the lfs who they figure is always right.

But just to help, take a tour through the disease threads on this site or rc. It's a well studied parasite with a known life cycle. 5 years ago i was giving out the same advice you did bud. I've just done a ton of reading on it since then, cuz after all I'm just a fish nerd. :)

Oscar47f · Jan 4, 2017

Triggreef said:
Not trying to be rude, unfortunately a lot of people spread exactly what you said because unfortunately they get it from the guy at the lfs who they figure is always right.

But just to help, take a tour through the disease threads on this site or rc. It's a well studied parasite with a known life cycle. 5 years ago i was giving out the same advice you did bud. I've just done a ton of reading on it since then, cuz after all I'm just a fish nerd. :)

lol thanks, and no problem man i understand