Is this really RR angry birds

ryshark · Dec 3, 2020

bubbaque said:
That looks like the Asia version. The USA version shouldn’t have pink.

I was thinking that too, I believe the USA is all blue skin and can develop different color polyps. Very nice frag above, nonetheless.

Gernader · Dec 3, 2020

bubbaque said:
That looks like the Asia version. The USA version shouldn’t have pink.

Oh, that’s a bummer... I only wanted the USA version. I bought it from a well known vendor who clearly marked it as the USA version

bubbaque · Dec 4, 2020

Gernader said:
Oh, that’s a bummer... I only wanted the USA version. I bought it from a well known vendor who clearly marked it as the USA version

Everyone wants the USA version but it’s hard to find. Aquasd was selling RR angry birds and people just assumed it was the USA version. Another known seller on r2r was selling RRUSA angry birds but it also had pink. I messaged him and asked where he got it and we found his seller never sold the USA version and only the Asia.

People assume when they get an angry birds it’s all the same, it’s not.

Should be blue like these pics.

bubbaque · Dec 4, 2020

Here is a video I took at Top shelf aquatics of theirs.

kaifish · Dec 4, 2020

I thought it my be the Asia version as well but it’s a beautiful piece

Gernader · Dec 4, 2020

Thank you guys for telling me. I have contacted the vendor to see why they mislabeled the piece, but it’s still a nice coral!

Som1else · Dec 4, 2020

In the interest of full disclosure, I am the one who supplied these frags to Aquasd. I bought this angry bird from another reefer on R2R , and later as i was getting ready to sell it I contacted him to ask which version it was, at that time he let me know that it was the RRU version, and to further trace the lineage the coral came from this site: https://jokercorals.com/products/rr-angry-bird?_pos=1&_sid=1cc159b7a&_ss=r Looking at the site they dont specifically list it as the USA version but that it was also somehow also traceable to cornbred. This was a quite awhile ago so i am going from memory somewhat. This is as much info as i have on it and want to be upfront about it, I certainly didn't have any reason to question the veracity of its lineage at the time and I don't want aquasd to be dragged through the mud for mislabeling something on their site.

Here is a picture of my colony as best as i can show it since i have it under 400W 20K lights and cant blue it up any more than this.

Som1else · Dec 5, 2020

Just an update, I emailed JC today and they confirmed that they were selling the RRU version. Gernader also contacted them separately and they added that they had originally sourced the coral from CB. Through some more digging I found out CB had sourced it from TSA corals.
Thinking about it further, I hadn't actually tracked the lineage before i first sold some frags and originally I simply labeled them as RR Angry Bird. However at some point someone inquired on the origin of my colony and more specifically whether or not it was a USA or Asia version which is what prompted me to tracked down the corals origin earlier. So that's the lineage in a nutshell.
Who wants a frag?, lol.

flyfisherman · Dec 5, 2020

I'm 100% convinced RRU Angry Bird can slightly morph when changing systems and carry those traits onward. That morph could start when cut, during shipping or after acclimation in a new tank. Other corals do this, why wouldn't RRU Angry Bird? I think maturity of the colony has some effect also.

Gernader · Dec 6, 2020

Som1else said:
Just an update, I emailed JC today and they confirmed that they were selling the RRU version. Gernader also contacted them separately and they added that they had originally sourced the coral from CB. Through some more digging I found out CB had sourced it from TSA corals.
Thinking about it further, I hadn't actually tracked the lineage before i first sold some frags and originally I simply labeled them as RR Angry Bird. However at some point someone inquired on the origin of my colony and more specifically whether or not it was a USA or Asia version which is what prompted me to tracked down the corals origin earlier. So that's the lineage in a nutshell.
Who wants a frag?, lol.

So, @AquaSD and @Som1else have been talking to me and we ended up verifying the lineage on my frag. It came from TSA to CB to Joker Corals to someone on R2R to @Som1else who supplied his to AquaSD. It turns out I have the legit RRU Angry Birds. It’s just that I happen to have a color morph on mine. I just wanted to say that I certainly didn’t mean to ruin anyone’s reputation; I was just concerned that I might have a different coral. Overall, I’m very happy with the customer service from the owner, Will, at AquaSD and of course, @Som1else worked hard to find out the lineage on my frag! Thank you guys so much for helping me out!

ryshark · Dec 10, 2020

I’m giving it another try since all my other acros seem to be doing fine now. I believe my problem was actually bad salinity calibration solution, I was probably around 1.022, which also led to low trace elements, iodine, etc. I think a faulty $7 solution cost me a ridiculous amount of money in new frags dying. Time to move forward.

Lineage is RRU to me. He said it’s cut from the original colony. It’s a little pale and not a whole lot of color yet, I just got it a couple days ago.

Odd thing is that the side you see shows PE but the back side doesn’t. I figured that the PE side was facing the light and it was a horizontal branch cut from the mother colony. However, the side with the PE is also pale and lacking colors. The other side with no PE that I originally assumed was facing away from the light, has the blueish skin and thicker looking skin. I don’t think I’ve seen that before, maybe a LED thing.

Gernader · Dec 10, 2020

Here’s what my RRU Angry Birds looks like now. Starting to look like RRU more than before!

Charlie’s Frags · Dec 10, 2020

ryshark said:
I’m giving it another try since all my other acros seem to be doing fine now. I believe my problem was actually bad salinity calibration solution, I was probably around 1.022, which also led to low trace elements, iodine, etc. I think a faulty $7 solution cost me a ridiculous amount of money in new frags dying. Time to move forward.

Lineage is RRU to me. He said it’s cut from the original colony. It’s a little pale and not a whole lot of color yet, I just got it a couple days ago.

Odd thing is that the side you see shows PE but the back side doesn’t. I figured that the PE side was facing the light and it was a horizontal branch cut from the mother colony. However, the side with the PE is also pale and lacking colors. The other side with no PE that I originally assumed was facing away from the light, has the blueish skin and thicker looking skin. I don’t think I’ve seen that before, maybe a LED thing.

I would question it if it came from anybody else but that’s what they look like from rru..... which is terrible. I hope it works out better for you this time around.

ryshark · Dec 10, 2020

Chaswood79 said:
I would question it if it came from anybody else but that’s what they look like from rru..... which is terrible. I hope it works out better for you this time around.

Thanks. Yeah, if this doesn't work out, I must force myself to stop buying direct from there. I could have already purchased a couple from TSA fully colored up by now.
@kaifish got his direct from rru and before I made the purchase again, I asked how his was doing and he said its doing good now. @kaifish I think somewhere you also mentioned yours having red polyps right away from day-1, is that right?

Charlie’s Frags · Dec 10, 2020

ryshark said:
Thanks. Yeah, if this doesn't work out, I must force myself to stop buying direct from there. I could have already purchased a couple from TSA fully colored up by now.
@kaifish got his direct from rru and before I made the purchase again, I asked how his was doing and he said its doing good now. @kaifish I think somewhere you also mentioned yours having red polyps right away from day-1, is that right?

A Happy rru angry bird should have red/orangish polyps

Purkey Pets · Dec 10, 2020

ryshark said:
I’m giving it another try since all my other acros seem to be doing fine now. I believe my problem was actually bad salinity calibration solution, I was probably around 1.022, which also led to low trace elements, iodine, etc. I think a faulty $7 solution cost me a ridiculous amount of money in new frags dying. Time to move forward.

Lineage is RRU to me. He said it’s cut from the original colony. It’s a little pale and not a whole lot of color yet, I just got it a couple days ago.

Odd thing is that the side you see shows PE but the back side doesn’t. I figured that the PE side was facing the light and it was a horizontal branch cut from the mother colony. However, the side with the PE is also pale and lacking colors. The other side with no PE that I originally assumed was facing away from the light, has the blueish skin and thicker looking skin. I don’t think I’ve seen that before, maybe a LED thing.

A tip on salinity-

Ditch the refractometer and get Tropic Marin's High Precision hydrometer. So much more accurate when used properly compared to refractometer. No calibration fluid....just need water temperature @ 77F.

Also, find a way to measure your water and weigh your salt. This will give consistent results. I have not had to adjust my salt mix since doing this. Specific gravity 1.0259 to 1.0261 every time I check, usually right on 1.0260.

Edit: here is the scale on the hydrometer

Hagios · Dec 10, 2020

Picked up this guy back around the summer of 2017 at Coral Farmers Market from RRU directly. With all the up and downs it has been a fairly resilient piece.

ryshark · Dec 10, 2020

Hagios said:
Picked up this guy back around the summer of 2017 at Coral Farmers Market from RRU directly. With all the up and downs it has been a fairly resilient piece.

There’s no question about that one. Very nice colony.