Kole Eye tang demise in QT

[linus.chan]

okay, so no mixing liquid prazi and CP, so should i wait out the prazipro? (seems like the normal protocol is a 20-25% change after 5 days. )

Should i try and remove the prazi using carbon? ugh, this is a mess, and i thought i was being careful.

 

[4FordFamily]

okay, so no mixing liquid prazi and CP, so should i wait out the prazipro? (seems like the normal protocol is a 20-25% change after 5 days. )

Should i try and remove the prazi using carbon? ugh, this is a mess, and i thought i was being careful.

Prazi has done its thing within 30 minutes typically, so removing it would be fine. I just remove it with large water changes.

 

[linus.chan]

so essentially, i will start with 20% water change tonight, 20% tomorrow morning and keep going until i have gotten all of the water out.

 

[linus.chan]

Liquid Prazi and CP is even more difficult. If you do it at ALL you need to use a powder form of prazi. Something like GC, which also includes Metro, or a pure praziquental powder you can find from some places. Liquid PraziPro isn't a good idea with CP. CP is awesome still though

So tbc, is there a bad drug interaction, or is it the oxygen depletion that is the problem.

 

[linus.chan]

@HotRocks looks like your protocol uses some antibiotics during copper, can I start antibiotic treatment while I am finishing prazipro? I am getting the list of meds you use, metro, furan-2, focus, kanaplax

 

[HotRocks]

@HotRocks looks like your protocol uses some antibiotics during copper, can I start antibiotic treatment while I am finishing prazipro? I am getting the list of meds you use, metro, furan-2, focus, kanaplax

I don't use antibiotics prophylactically. I only use them if an infection is present. So I'd hold off.

Also I have never mixed them with praziquantel.

 

[linus.chan]

So I realized I did not have copper power but rather copper safe, just ordered the copper power and it should arrive with the Hanna checker.

 

[pdiehm]

So I realized I did not have copper power but rather copper safe, just ordered the copper power and it should arrive with the Hanna checker.

coppersafe will work. I would half the recommended dosage (ie: 0.4ml per gallon) and test. make up 1 gallon of water, add in 0.4ml of coppersafe. test. If you're at 1.5 then you are almost there.

I usually shot for 1.75ppm using the copper checker with coppersafe.

 

[linus.chan]

So just to be clear- the consensus here seems to be that for the flame wrasse, using copper ramping up from 1.0ppm to 1.75 ppm is likely safer than using 40mg/gallon of CP, correct?

I ask because i could start CP as early as tomorrow, while copper i would need to wait until Thursday night.

 

[linus.chan]

Hello all,
So... my flame wrasse is dead after I added enoough copper power to get to .46 ppm.


I am beyond frustrated.

The fish was eating well, swimming well, and otherwise active with no signs of disease or issues.

I had changed my water out for the last three days to clear out prazi pro.

I then added an additional air stone (so for my qt, I had 2 air stones, plus the corner filter)

I fed the wrasse in the morning. Things looked well, added copper power to a small amount of tank water (I halved the amount enough to get close to 1.0ppm) added it, things looked fine for several minutes and went to work.

I come home and the fish is dead.


To recap I never used Prime, I had in the past had polyfilter and had used zeolite, but both were taken out and I did not find any information that they were a problem.

I am ready to scream. I am so frustrated and I have to wonder if I would have been better off using CP.

I appreciated all of your thoughts and insights but I would definitely count this incident in the notion that maybe fairy wrasse, specifically flame may be more sensitive to copper than what people here seem to think.

 

[linus.chan]

Here are the pics, no signs of infection that I can see