KP Aquatics still good to go?

jasonrusso · Jul 19, 2023

From the research I see on here, it looks like KP Aquatics is one of the best. I'm looking into a Porcupine puffer. I don't care about price (I want a healthy fish), but their prices are great. I've been having a really hard time getting a healthy specimen recently.

Has anyone had good luck with them? They say they keep the fish in medicated tanks. Not sure what that means. I sent them an e-mail. Puffers don't like copper (I don't either), so I will see what they say.

Miami Reef · Jul 19, 2023

I never knew KP aquatics sold quarantined fish.

F i s h y · Jul 19, 2023

Miami Reef said:
I never knew KP aquatics sold quarantined fish.

they aren't QT.... I was hoping they were, want more fish

This is from their website

Please Note: Any new fish purchased from us or from a local pet store should to be quarantined. All fish from anywhere in the wild can be possible carriers of bacteria and protozoa that can lead to an infection in your system, so we always recommend that you use some sort of quarantine system prior to adding them to your system. If you have a fish only system and can medicate the whole system, you may not need a separate quarantine tank. If you have a reef system that cannot be medicated, a good ultraviolet sterilization system should prevent any kind of disease outbreak. We medicate our system for bacterial infections and protozoans, but because we don’t always hold our fish for long periods of time, there is no way to be sure all the protozoan cysts have been killed. A little bit of prevention will save you lots of trouble down the line.

SaltyT · Jul 19, 2023

I haven't ordered fish from them, but I've ordered live rock, gorgonians, and inverts from them and have never been disappointed. I just received an order from them last week that was delayed by UPS but everything arrived alive and in great shape thanks to their packing.

F i s h y · Jul 19, 2023

Not to hijack the thread but has anyone ordered fish from these guys? pricing is a little better.

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jasonrusso · Jul 19, 2023

F i s h y said:
they aren't QT.... I was hoping they were, want more fish
This is from their website

Please Note: Any new fish purchased from us or from a local pet store should to be quarantined. All fish from anywhere in the wild can be possible carriers of bacteria and protozoa that can lead to an infection in your system, so we always recommend that you use some sort of quarantine system prior to adding them to your system. If you have a fish only system and can medicate the whole system, you may not need a separate quarantine tank. If you have a reef system that cannot be medicated, a good ultraviolet sterilization system should prevent any kind of disease outbreak. We medicate our system for bacterial infections and protozoans, but because we don’t always hold our fish for long periods of time, there is no way to be sure all the protozoan cysts have been killed. A little bit of prevention will save you lots of trouble down the line.

I saw this page also. He's going into a fowler that I'm currently Peroxide dosing (cured an active crypt outbreak.

I've lost 3 this year in QT. Not sure why, but it's heart breaking.

Here is my thinking. Parasite outbreaks in the wild don't exist. Fish have an immunity of some sort.

They are wild caught, put in medicated water, sold a few weeks later. Where is the chance of infection? I know it's possible, but it seems low.

jasonrusso · Jul 19, 2023

F i s h y said:
Not to hijack the thread but has anyone ordered fish from these guys? pricing is a little better.

Saltwater Fish For Sale Online | Caribbean Tropicals

Here at Caribbean Tropicals, we are all about coloring your Home Life with Sea Life. Hand collected marine fish and invertebrates from the Florida Keys

www.caribbeantropicals.com

Kind of sounds like the same thing.

Here is what I don't like on the Porcupinefish listing. They ship the small ones from Haiti. They catch the large ones. That's not direct from diver, is it? You don't know what happened in between.

DOJOLOACH · Jul 26, 2023

jasonrusso said:
From the research I see on here, it looks like KP Aquatics is one of the best. I'm looking into a Porcupine puffer. I don't care about price (I want a healthy fish), but their prices are great. I've been having a really hard time getting a healthy specimen recently.

Has anyone had good luck with them? They say they keep the fish in medicated tanks. Not sure what that means. I sent them an e-mail. Puffers don't like copper (I don't either), so I will see what they say.

Had any luck with contacting them? I reached out a week ago for some fish but no response.

jasonrusso · Jul 26, 2023

DOJOLOACH said:
Had any luck with contacting them? I reached out a week ago for some fish but no response.

The fish is on my kitchen table and I'm heading home now. Got one vague response. Not happy with the communication

Doctorgori · Jul 26, 2023

I’ve ordered from KP maybe 4 or 5X, fish are excellent and prices are great but you are gonna want to quarantine them

jasonrusso · Jul 26, 2023

Doctorgori said:
I’ve ordered from KP maybe 4 or 5X, fish are excellent and prices are great but you are gonna want to quarantine them

Why do you say that?

areefer01 · Jul 26, 2023

jasonrusso said:
Why do you say that?

I can't speak for them but probably because the fish sold by KP are not QT and that is their preference. If the hobbyist isn't able to or support the equipment or practiced it enough it makes sense. There are a couple reliable vetted vendors for properly QT'd animals if one looks.

jasonrusso · Jul 26, 2023

areefer01 said:
I can't speak for them but probably because the fish sold by KP are not QT and that is their preference. If the hobbyist isn't able to or support the equipment or practiced it enough it makes sense. There are a couple reliable vetted vendors for properly QT'd animals if one looks.

So no actual problems, just saying to quarantine fish.

For what it's worth, my last outbreak came from a very reputable pre-quarantine vendor.

I peroxide dose now.

areefer01 · Jul 26, 2023

jasonrusso said:
So no actual problems, just saying to quarantine fish.

For what it's worth, my last outbreak came from a very reputable pre-quarantine vendor.

I peroxide dose now.

That is what I'm assuming but I'm not the OP. I've ordered rock and corals from KP and had a great experience. I have not purchased any fish from them.

Hope your day is going well.

Battlecorals · Jul 26, 2023

jasonrusso said:
From the research I see on here, it looks like KP Aquatics is one of the best. I'm looking into a Porcupine puffer. I don't care about price (I want a healthy fish), but their prices are great. I've been having a really hard time getting a healthy specimen recently.

Has anyone had good luck with them? They say they keep the fish in medicated tanks. Not sure what that means. I sent them an e-mail. Puffers don't like copper (I don't either), so I will see what they say.

KP is amazing! I get a couple thousand snails and crabs from Phil every year or so. and he graciously donated some gorgonians to the tank I set up at my sons school. great guy all around. Never bought fish but I wouldn't hesitate if I needed any.

areefer01 · Jul 26, 2023

Battlecorals said:
KP is amazing! I get a couple thousand snails and crabs from Phil every year or so. and he graciously donated some gorgonians to the tank I set up at my sons school. great guy all around. Never bought fish but I wouldn't hesitate if I needed any.

That he is. Small family business to boot.