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[Lasse]

A thread about Organic-MS

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Sincerely Lasse

 

[cdemoss01]

A thread about Organic-MS

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Sincerely Lasse

Hello @Lasse I your fish are very beautiful! I have to ask though what is that black tang? And the blenny on the bottom photo?

 

[Lasse]

The blenny is bought as a molly miller blenny ( Scartella cristata )
The tang is a mystery it is bought as a Ctenochaetus strigosus which it is not (no yellow eye)! Closest guess is a variety of the blue lip bristletooth (Ctenochaetus cyanocheilus)

Sincerely Lasse

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[skey44]

Love your tank! Joining in and following along. Interested in your skimmate and coral snow concoction. I’ve been mixing PNS probio and coral snow lately and it seems to really clean the tank well. Especially seems to be good at keeping my sandbed crispy white.

 

[Lasse]

FYI

I have started an aggressive use of CaCO3 powder soaked in skimmate for an hour. 4 table spoons of CaCO3 powder and 30 ml skimmate - once a day around 20:00 (8 pm)

I will follow up with results in my own thread in order to not derail this thread

Sincerely Lasse

FYI

Sincerely Lasse

 

[Lasse]

FTS a week ago - since that have my Euphyllia waterfall been reconstructed

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New Okinawae - a little bit paler

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A new Goby

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Sincerely Lasse

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[X-37B]

FTS a week ago - since that have my Euphyllia waterfall been reconstructed

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New Okinawae - a little bit paler

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A new Goby

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Sincerely Lasse

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That's a cool goby! This is my transparent cave goby. An unusual goby you don't see often.

 

[Lasse]

After 4 days with around 4 table spoons of CaCO3 powder that has been in around 30 ml skimmate (from my skimmer) a day - I think I observe a more clear water and the sand substrate is more white. There is also a feeling of that my Cyanobacteria is decreasing but it still to early to say. It could also be the old ghost - the placebo effect - that rocking my brain.

Sincerely Lasse

 

[Lasse]

I have now use CaCO3 together with skimmate a week. 5 doses every evening and now 2 days without any dosing. It looks like it result in lesser Cyanobacteria on the sand and in some rocks. Its not totally gone but it looks like a decrease. Sand is more white for sure.

Lots of CaCO3 in my combined filter floss and GFO-filter. A lot in the skimmate too. Some CaCO2 in the sediment of the sump too.

At least not seen any negative respons from my corals - but my leather collect a lot of CaCO3 dust on the surface - has blow that away once

Notice very strange KH measurements - probably caused by fine CaCO3 in the sample. Has filtered the sample with 0.22 µ syringe filter. The test sample must be taken att least 20 hours after the addition in order to give a good result.

I will do a break of at least 5 days and see whats happen with the cyanobacteria.

Sincerely Lasse

 

[twentyleagues]

I did not notice any kh difference when dosing calcium carbonate. Cleaner substrate and rock yes. I did not use skimmate though. Do you think it could be something the skimmer collected and is being "released" into the water from that? I did use bottled bacteria products whether it worked or not IDK.

 

[Lasse]

@twentyleagues - What did you measure the KH with? Most methods of KH calculations are build on acid - down to around 4- this acid will react with the CaCO3 powder - if it still in the water - and probably give a false KH reading. If I wait ar least 20 hours and use a 0.22 µ filter - my KH measurements with Salifert shows the expected figure. Hannas method seems not so sensitive to CaCO3 particles.

Sincerely Lasse

 

[twentyleagues]

@twentyleagues - What did you measure the KH with? Most methods of KH calculations are build on acid - down to around 4- this acid will react with the CaCO3 powder - if it still in the water - and probably give a false KH reading. If I wait ar least 20 hours and use a 0.22 µ filter - my KH measurements with Salifert shows the expected figure. Hannas method seems not so sensitive to CaCO3 particles.

Sincerely Lasse

Sorry guess I misunderstood. I was thinking alk lol, sorry again. I'm not that scientific to go messing around with "non- reef related" products, I'd probably blow up the house.

 

[Lasse]

CaCO3 is the same as Calcium Carbonate. The acid used in most KH measurement methods may dissolve the calcium carbonate (CaCO3) into Ca and CO3 ions - in other words - raises the alkalinity (adds CO3 ions) in the sample and you may get an incorrect KH that is not representative of your aquarium.

I know that the methods that use titration (you ad a dye to the sample and measure how much you need of another chemical in order to change the colour) use acids as titrant (this other chemical) and when the pH reach around 4.3 the dye change colour.

However I am unsure whether Hanna's method - just adding a dye and then measuring its intensity - lowers the pH enough to dissolve remaining particles (in the sample water) of calcium carbonate into calcium and carbonate ions. That is why I asked what method you used to measure your KH while using fine calcium carbonate powder. The reason I recommended about 20 hours before measuring KH (and possibly also calcium) was because after that time all added calcium carbonate powder should have settled and not remain as particles in the sample water.

Sincerely Lasse

 

[twentyleagues]

CaCO3 is the same as Calcium Carbonate. The acid used in most KH measurement methods may dissolve the calcium carbonate (CaCO3) into Ca and CO3 ions - in other words - raises the alkalinity (adds CO3 ions) in the sample and you may get an incorrect KH that is not representative of your aquarium.

I know that the methods that use titration (you ad a dye to the sample and measure how much you need of another chemical in order to change the colour) use acids as titrant (this other chemical) and when the pH reach around 4.3 the dye change colour.

However I am unsure whether Hanna's method - just adding a dye and then measuring its intensity - lowers the pH enough to dissolve remaining particles (in the sample water) of calcium carbonate into calcium and carbonate ions. That is why I asked what method you used to measure your KH while using fine calcium carbonate powder. The reason I recommended about 20 hours before measuring KH (and possibly also calcium) was because after that time all added calcium carbonate powder should have settled and not remain as particles in the sample water.

Sincerely Lasse

I understand. My last reply was more of a joke on my misunderstanding of what you wrote previously. When you said kh my mind turned it to dkh. Yeah sure I use the Hannah alk tester I also have redsea and salifert. I have never tried to measure kh or gh in saltwater but I have freshwater kh and gh test kits. I have no idea if they would work in saltwater. Having just recently (about 2 years ago) stopped breeding quite a few freshwater fish mostly more rare and challenging african cichlids, pea puffers, congo tetras, and some asian barbs some of which need "seasonal" water chemistry changes to help induce breeding. I have used acids and to some extent bases to change water chemistry. If I dont have a "boxed" test kit to use I have not tried to make my own, lets say I am not that savvy.

 

[twentyleagues]

CaCO3 is the same as Calcium Carbonate. The acid used in most KH measurement methods may dissolve the calcium carbonate (CaCO3) into Ca and CO3 ions - in other words - raises the alkalinity (adds CO3 ions) in the sample and you may get an incorrect KH that is not representative of your aquarium.

I know that the methods that use titration (you ad a dye to the sample and measure how much you need of another chemical in order to change the colour) use acids as titrant (this other chemical) and when the pH reach around 4.3 the dye change colour.

However I am unsure whether Hanna's method - just adding a dye and then measuring its intensity - lowers the pH enough to dissolve remaining particles (in the sample water) of calcium carbonate into calcium and carbonate ions. That is why I asked what method you used to measure your KH while using fine calcium carbonate powder. The reason I recommended about 20 hours before measuring KH (and possibly also calcium) was because after that time all added calcium carbonate powder should have settled and not remain as particles in the sample water.

Sincerely Lasse

I understand. My last reply was more of a joke on my misunderstanding of what you wrote previously. When you said kh my mind turned it to dkh. Yeah sure I use the Hannah alk tester I also have redsea and salifert. I have never tried to measure kh or gh in saltwater but I have freshwater kh and gh test kits. I have no idea if they would work in saltwater. Having just recently (about 2 years ago) stopped breeding quite a few freshwater fish mostly more rare and challenging african cichlids, pea puffers, congo tetras, and some asian barbs some of which need "seasonal" water chemistry changes to help induce breeding. I have used acids and to some extent bases to change water chemistry. If I dont have a "boxed" test kit to use I have not tried to make my own, lets say I am not that savvy.

Some website issue this morning on my end.....

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Interesting results. Thanks for the info, Lasse!

 

[Lasse]

@twentyleagues - I will try to clear up the doubts regarding the very German term water hardness. There are two terms KH and GH

KH stands for Karbonathärte (carbonate hardness) and GH for Gemeinsamkeit Härte (common hardness). KH is a measure of the bicarbonate/carbonate ions content of water and GH includes many ions including calcium and magnesium which means it is completely pointless to measure in salt water which is very rich in both calcium and magnesium.

In salt water the alkalinity consists mostly (normally more than 96%) of bicarbonate/carbonate ions and therefore the German term KH became more or less a measure of the total alkalinity (both in salt and fresh water). The concept 7 in KH should actually be written 7 °dKH which stands for 7 degrees Deutsche Karbonathärte since there are many national scales for bicarbonate/catbonate ions hardness. This aquarist concept dKH is valid for both salt and fresh water. In science, other concepts than dKH are used - there, alkalinity is calculated in mg/L CaCO3 or in mEq per liter. The conversion is 1 dKH = approx. 17.857 mg/L CaCO3 = 2.8 mEq/L. 1 mEq/l = 1 mmol/L HCO3

@Randy Holmes-Farley - correct me if I´m wrong or express myself badly (using swenglish)

Sincerely Lasse

 

[That Crusso Kid]

@twentyleagues - I will try to clear up the doubts regarding the very German term water hardness. There are two terms KH and GH

KH stands for Karbonathärte (carbonate hardness) and GH for Gemeinsamkeit Härte (common hardness). KH is a measure of the carbonate ion content of water and GH includes many ions including calcium and magnesium which means it is completely pointless to measure in salt water which is very rich in both calcium and magnesium.

In salt water the alkalinity consists mostly (normally more than 96%) of bi and carbonate ions and therefore the German term KH became more or less a measure of the total alkalinity (both in salt and fresh water). The concept 7 in KH should actually be written 7 °dKH which stands for 7 degrees Deutsche Karbonathärte since there are many national scales for carbonate hardness. This aquarist concept dKH is valid for both salt and fresh water. In science, other concepts than dKH are used - there, alkalinity is calculated in mg/L CaCO3 or in mEq per liter. The conversion is 1 dKH = approx. 17.857 mg/L CaCO3 = 2.8 mEq/L. 1 mEq/l = 1 mmol/L HCO3

@Randy Holmes-Farley - correct me if I´m wrong or express myself badly (using swenglish)

Sincerely Lasse

You explained it well enough so that even I could understand it. That's saying something!

 

[areefer01]

A thread about Organic-MS

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What fish is this if you don't mind me asking? It reminds me of the Bluegill Longfin (Plesiops Corallicola).

 

[twentyleagues]

@twentyleagues - I will try to clear up the doubts regarding the very German term water hardness. There are two terms KH and GH

KH stands for Karbonathärte (carbonate hardness) and GH for Gemeinsamkeit Härte (common hardness). KH is a measure of the carbonate ion content of water and GH includes many ions including calcium and magnesium which means it is completely pointless to measure in salt water which is very rich in both calcium and magnesium.

In salt water the alkalinity consists mostly (normally more than 96%) of bi and carbonate ions and therefore the German term KH became more or less a measure of the total alkalinity (both in salt and fresh water). The concept 7 in KH should actually be written 7 °dKH which stands for 7 degrees Deutsche Karbonathärte since there are many national scales for carbonate hardness. This aquarist concept dKH is valid for both salt and fresh water. In science, other concepts than dKH are used - there, alkalinity is calculated in mg/L CaCO3 or in mEq per liter. The conversion is 1 dKH = approx. 17.857 mg/L CaCO3 = 2.8 mEq/L. 1 mEq/l = 1 mmol/L HCO3

@Randy Holmes-Farley - correct me if I´m wrong or express myself badly (using swenglish)

Sincerely Lasse

Very clear! Like a tank that uses coral snow.