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I wish I could use will-power to transform my wrasses into ultra rare fish. :hammer:

Evolved, what is the most obtainable (in comparison) wrasse with a "Pin-shaped" caudal fin?
 
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I wish I could use will-power to transform my wrasses into ultra rare fish. :hammer:
Actually, C. lanceolatus is much more rare than C. cf lanceolatus. cf lanceolatus just hasn't been collected in a couple years; it will be again one day. And I WILL own one, eventually (not something I can say with certainty on C. lanceolatus).

Evolved, what is the most obtainable (in comparison) wrasse with a "Pin-shaped" caudal fin?
C. roseafascia being the best alternative with a well defined lancet-shaped caudal fin, but really C. rhomboidalis is the most obtainable.
 

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Actually, C. lanceolatus is much more rare than C. cf lanceolatus. cf lanceolatus just hasn't been collected in a couple years; it will be again one day. And I WILL own one, eventually (not something I can say with certainty on C. lanceolatus).

C. roseafascia being the best alternative with a well defined lancet-shaped caudal fin, but really C. rhomboidalis is the most obtainable.

Well then I made a failure of a snide remark. LOL

How much $ are we talking for C. roseafascia?
 

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I'm sorry, but it is certainly not.

When he is moved up to the display I will get some better pics. It is a submale right now so hopefully he will become more stunning over time. I was assured when I bought it that is was not C. roseafascia and that it was cf lanceoltus with a tiny tiny percentage chance it was c lanceoltus. However, I understand that not everyone is perfect so you could babsolutely right. This will be a fun one, or a very expensive c. roseafascia. :tongue:
 
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Evolv: have you seen the new wrasse from Pacific East Aquaculture?? most amazing!! supposed to be very rare and from French Polynesia. heres a vid:
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I had not yet, thanks for sharing. Not "new" however, but rather Pseudojuloides atavai. A delicate pencil wrasse.

Well then I made a failure of a snide remark. LOL

How much $ are we talking for C. roseafascia?
:) $300ish

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When he is moved up to the display I will get some better pics. It is a submale right now so hopefully he will become more stunning over time. I was assured when I bought it that is was not C. roseafascia and that it was cf lanceoltus with a tiny tiny percentage chance it was c lanceoltus. However, I understand that not everyone is perfect so you could babsolutely right. This will be a fun one, or a very expensive c. roseafascia. :tongue:
Well, we agree on one thing right now, it is certainty a young male. However, you were at best partially misinformed, as there is absolutely no chance that fish is a cf. lanceolatus. Again, a picture of the pelvic fins is what is necessary for a positive ID.
 
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Latin for "resembling".

It was supposed to be officially described (and therefore given it's own Latin designation) by Dr. Tanaka several years ago, but we're still waiting. :) It's been agreed it is a unique species since 2008 (if not a few years prior) but it most closely resembles lanceolatus (hence the temporary tag).
 

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Very interesting.

Random question: When you study your wrasse names. Do you go to the extent of researching the Latin pronunciation? Seems like a lot of people completely slaughter the Latin names. Even with simple things like Acan.
 
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Random question: When you study your wrasse names. Do you go to the extent of researching the Latin pronunciation? Seems like a lot of people completely slaughter the Latin names. Even with simple things like Acan.
I've learned Latin is a funny thing and pronunciation of all the essential sounds varies depending on the area of science you're in. That being said, I've learned how to more properly pronounce most of the names by hearing better informed people speak. However, I don't make too big of a deal about how to say them; just knowing what they are is more than half the battle. :) So some I get right, others I slaughter.
 
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Reading back through yesterdays transgression, I'm hoping I didn't come off as asinine; I was just trying to be matter-of-fact. My apologies if anyone took it differently.

I will get some better pics when he is moved to the display.
Please do. As much as I hope you got what you believed you purchased, the more I look at your photo the more I see roseafascia. FWIW, this wouldn't be the first time roseafascia's were passed off as lanceolatus for a wholesaler's profit (not trying to imply any dishonesty in this case).
 
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I said I would be back with pics when he was all settled in, and here they are. I think I am leaning towards the rose, just wanted confirmation.

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Yes, it is C. roseafascia. If it were in fact a lanceolatus, those dark spots on the pelvic fins would be at the anterior.
 

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Paracheilinus flavianalis and Cirrhilabrus nahacky I believe.
 
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