Long term issues with dosing H2O2?

[brandon429]

Recap specific to OP question

Using examples given as feedback


Extended dosing risks habituation in the target, making you have to increase dose amount or % peroxide. It may or may not work but the risk of loss is so on file, if you're shown pertinent threads you'll see harm isn't a factor.

A list of known sensitives helps you determine dose approach


Don't dose preventatively without targets in place is my recommend. You're creating resistant targets that way. It took about fourteen years of work to be able to say that, though it's not in someone's published university study.

I took time to long term follow up with the dosers who were available, and we didn't have bad outcomes necessitating us to find things like micronutrient harm etc

From the hundreds of tanks on file we didn't follow up: click on avatar. Select find all threads to see the arc of the tank after the job. I did that years too no crashes

That's why trace element interaction is never mentioned in prep work for the jobs. But it's king risk presented here.

That risk was eliminated first year of work. It's still not factored anywhere, because we're not lacking great results depending on who's method is followed.

If you use peroxide dosing to win, like Troy did, quit using it after the target abates

Light power and spectrum are the first things we change in the clean condition: too much light and white light promulgates dinos tanks very often. (This should also cause an uproar based on recent threads here)

We remove the sandbed in other systems to sustain the fix depending on details. Peroxide is a tool don't make it the sole approach.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I think we have answered the op question in many different ways with different opinions and ideas.

I think it is apparent that folks approach questions in different ways and with different criteria for making claims.

I’m not going to keep fighting the Brandon tidal wave of claims based on his work threads.

I’m just going to finish by repeating that I do not agree that dosing an amount of hydrogen peroxide that killed dinos as a long term procedure is without any possible negative effects.

 

[10galtank]

I think we have answered the op question in many different ways with different opinions and ideas.

I think it is apparent that folks approach questions in different ways and with different criteria for making claims.

I’m not going to keep fighting the Brandon tidal wave of claims based on his work threads.

I’m just going to finish by repeating that I do not agree that dosing an amount of hydrogen peroxide that killed dinos as a long term procedure is without any possible negative effects.

Randy, I gave this thread a few days to figure itself out given the nature of Brandon’s comments. I’d like to touch on a few things; firstly, I agree with you on the basis that continual dose of h2o2 will most likely negatively effect some aspects of the tank. I am not ignorant to that, as Brandon’s claims to other reefers. My original question, as you graciously answered, was what the long terms effects could be. To your best ability, you answered and gave me what you had on mind. I acknowledge and thank you for not saying “this would effect xyz…” on something you were unsure of. That could only benefit me by not blindly leading me into something I thought was right. I originally anticipated not much scientific backing on this approach of continual dosing. How did I know that? Bc unlike Brandon’s claims, I did an extensive amount of research and couldn’t find anything remotely close to my original question!!! But like any common-sense brained human being, I took the reasonable approach to ask the question as a shot in the dark to see.

Randy, thank you for answereing my question to the best of your abilities to begin with. And to whomever else who reads this who has also contributed.

As for me, I will continue dose of h2o2 and monitor results closely via icp, home testing, and visual.

 

[enlighten]

Had this question in mind. Ive used peroxide to treat parasites and pathogens like ich and dinos, and it usually does seem to have some sort of short term boost in coral appearance. Is there an update on your experiement ?