Nailed it nay sayers

[rtparty]

I wouldnt know what im looking at under a microscope lol

Take a pic and ask AI

I’m very interested in what it says

 

[Johnd651]

I understand the black p ut can be rough on corals , luckily im waiting to pass the worst of the uglies before i stock up , that being said diatoms and dinos are the least of my concerns and the easiest so far to get rid of . It cyano thats the trouble maker but im ordering a double powerhead for the low flow side but still going to treat with chemi clean to stop it right away as it can be harmful to the fish when it reaches higher levels like im seeing and its all about the well being of my livestock. There is nothing natural about what happens when running a aquarium most of those pests dont happen in nature and if the do the other organisms are so abundant that you would never notice so in a glass box human intervention is required to pick up the slack.

I guess your comment about nothing natural is concerning. The whole point is to understand and recreate natural to try and avoid chemicals ( which the oceans don't use). The starting stages are natural, we just don't have the ecosystem developed in our glass box yet, but time helps develop it.

As others have said, good start but don't be surprised/discouraged if one or more things come back. If they don't, that's great as well, but the second you change that balance...ie adding ammonia via fish, or removing nutrients via coral, it will attempt to go back into equilibrium.

 

[fish_collector]

I understand the black p ut can be rough on corals , luckily im waiting to pass the worst of the uglies before i stock up , that being said diatoms and dinos are the least of my concerns and the easiest so far to get rid of . It cyano thats the trouble maker but im ordering a double powerhead for the low flow side but still going to treat with chemi clean to stop it right away as it can be harmful to the fish when it reaches higher levels like im seeing and its all about the well being of my livestock. There is nothing natural about what happens when running a aquarium most of those pests dont happen in nature and if the do the other organisms are so abundant that you would never notice so in a glass box human intervention is required to pick up the slack.

I don't want to beat a dead horse any further, but some of your notions regarding marine aquaria aren't entirely accurate. The red slime from cyano bacteria typically isn't very toxic at all IME, I've had it cover corals completely and after siphoning it out the corals were unharmed. A good number of our tanks will get cyano out of the blue when the seasons change, it's literally in our environment. I personally wouldn't use Chemiclean in my tank, it's just an antibiotic. What happens when you get rid of dinoflagellates is cyano often times moves in to take it's place and vice-versa. I would be more concerned about dinoflagellates but I'll let you pick your own poison. Your tank currently looks very sterile to me and it is almost a certainty that you will 3 or 4 stages of undesirable growth from the organisms that we have been discussing, we can circle back in 2 years. A nice coating of algae and pink coralline will signal when it is healthy. A marine aquarium is 100% a natural ecosystem.

You can base your tank husbandry on AI if you want, or you can heed the warnings and advice of almost every person who has replied to this thread which probably equates to decades of reefing experience. Keep us up to date on your journey into tank husbandry.

 

[slingfox]

Glad to hear that a blackout worked for you. As others have stated, the tank looks very new so you have a long road ahead. Keep at it and learn what you can!

You may want to revisit your fish choice. Having that large of a fish in that size tank could make things challenging and isn’t great for the fish itself.

 

[PoseidonsReef]

Glad to hear that a blackout worked for you. As others have stated, the tank looks very new so you have a long road ahead. Keep at it and learn what you can!

You may want to revisit your fish choice. Having that large of a fish in that size tank could make things challenging and isn’t great for the fish itself.

Im 4 months in i know there is a long road ahead,its a 100 gallon tank he will be fine

 

[PoseidonsReef]

I year from now ill be accepting apologies while im staring into a lush ecosystem

 

[Malum Argenteum]

I year from now ill be accepting apologies while im staring into a lush ecosystem

I don't understand why you're so set on thumbing your nose at people who are trying to help you. I mean, I do understand, but I'm not sure how else to word it.

 

[Johnd651]

I year from now ill be accepting apologies while im staring into a lush ecosystem

A year from now one of 2 things will happen... you'll be part of a community fragging corals and meeting fellow reefers, or selling everything on marketplace. I'm sure we all would love to see option A, but I'm not one to complain about option B. Good luck and enjoy the hobby.

 

[exnisstech]

Come back and update us in a year and let us know how things have gone. I don't really care about weekly success because it's meaningless. Maybe you and Ai can teach us a few things. Even learning what not to do is still learning

 

[Tahoe61]

I year from now ill be accepting apologies while im staring into a lush ecosystem

This hobby is the long game in teaching humility, good luck you're going to need it. Just please be mindful of the creatures you care for.

 

[PoseidonsReef]

I year from now ill be accepting apologies while im staring into a lush ecosystem

This hobby is the long game in teaching humility, good luck you're going to need it. Just please be mindful of the creatures you care for.

I am , the well being of my livestock is number one priority

 

[PoseidonsReef]

I year from now ill be accepting apologies while im staring into a lush ecosystem

This hobby is the long game in teaching humility, good luck you're going to need it. Just please be mindful of the creatures you care for.

I am , the well being of my livestock is number one priority

 

[PoseidonsReef]

I year from now ill be accepting apologies while im staring into a lush ecosystem

This hobby is the long game in teaching humility, good luck you're going to need it. Just please be mindful of the creatures you care for.

I am , the well being of my livestock is number one priority

 

[Malum Argenteum]

the well being of my livestock is number one priority

Huh.

 

[PoseidonsReef]

the well being of my livestock is number one priority

Huh.

Letting cyano get out of control to toxic levels and letting "nature " run its course ina an unnatural environment is not in the best interest of your fish regardless what so called self proclaimed "experts" tell you

 

[fish_collector]

No one said let it get out of control, I think we’re trying to let you know that patting yourself on the back for the progress your blackout has made is a bit premature. Your tank is still void of any beneficial algae and will not stay that way for any length of time. You’re basically telling all of us that we don’t know what we’re talking about, but we’re the ones who have been there and done that and are speaking from experience. If it were easy to control problem algae with a blackout there wouldn’t be a thousand threads here asking how to control it. Just sayin.

I’ll post a pic or two of what healthy rock and tank looks like when I get home later today. It has no resemblance to yours at all.

Your sand sifting star will starve in your tank.

 

[PoseidonsReef]

No one said let it get out of control, I think we’re trying to let you know that patting yourself on the back for the progress your blackout has made is a bit premature. Your tank is still void of any beneficial algae and will not stay that way for any length of time. You’re basically telling all of us that we don’t know what we’re talking about, but we’re the ones who have been there and done that and are speaking from experience.

I’ll post a pic or two of what healthy rock and tank looks like when I get home later today. It has no resemblance to yours at all.

Your sand sifting star will starve in your tank.

Ive read sand stars starve due to lack of good and is why i only got one , also plan of hand feeding by placing krill in the sand bed to keep it fed so no b it will not starve.
You show me a degree in marine biology and then ill take your words for it , until then your extent of knowledge is about as good as mine even though ive just begun ,ive read all the same articles and know what im in for

 

[EnterName]

I year from now ill be accepting apologies while im staring into a lush ecosystem

This hobby is the long game in teaching humility, good luck you're going to need it. Just please be mindful of the creatures you care for.

I am , the well being of my livestock is number one priority

Is that an Archaster angulatus?

 

[PoseidonsReef]

I year from now ill be accepting apologies while im staring into a lush ecosystem

This hobby is the long game in teaching humility, good luck you're going to need it. Just please be mindful of the creatures you care for.

I am , the well being of my livestock is number one priority

Is that an Archaster angulatus?

Yes

 

[exnisstech]

Ive read sand stars starve due to lack of good and is why i only got one , also plan of hand feeding by placing krill in the sand bed to keep it fed so no b it will not starve.
You show me a degree in marine biology and then ill take your words for it , until then your extent of knowledge is about as good as mine even though ive just begun ,ive read all the same articles and know what im in for

Why are you even posting here? I suppose maybe to share your knowledge since you already know everything needed to be successful in the hobby?
Me I'm still a newb but learning every day and look forward to learning from you because im struggling to get things right.