Need plumbing ideas for Ozone Reactor

[Cltfish]

I read lots here - but haven't posted here before. I need some help/suggestions. I have a 125G with an Eshopps R300 Sump (has the fuge in it). My skimmer compartment is rather full (separate filter pump, Reef Octopus Skimmer, Phosban reactor, biopellet reactor, etc).
I started to run Ozone in my skimmer and have seen GREAT results so I want to run it "for real." I was able to buy a 2 year old Reef Octopus Ozone Reactor (OR150) that was still in the box and never used. If this one won't work, I am happy to get a different one.
Since I don't have room in my sump - I need to run it outside the Sump - but still under the tank. There isn't that much vertical height - so the bottom of the ozone reactor needs to sit on (or very close) to the ground.
Here is where I need help....how....
Can I put an external pump on the outlet of the ORA150? If I do that - how do I keep the water level ok - and could there be a catastrophe if the pump stops (IE - I think if it fills up too much water might come out of the air scrubbing side). Water will have to make it back up about 16" to get over the wall of the sump.
Everything I have seen online has the ORA150 higher and just draining down into the sump (I have seen some crazy pictures of people putting it on a 5 gallon bucket and a chair). I want something much more stable and permanent.
I do have an Apex - but have no clue how or were I could put a float valve as a backup.
I could feed this off of the filter loop I have set up (which I prefer) or a separate dedicate pump.
I'm also thinking about having it return through a mini BRS media reactor with carbon.
I also have looked at the Atomic line of Ozone reactors - since the water goes in and out of the top....I haven't seen one in action so I don't know if that removes the ozone from the air/water as well as the ORA150.

Any thoughts and suggestions are welcome! I appreciate the help in advance!

 

[Anthony Wood]

I run ozone. I use the bulb type ozone to avoid have to use an air drier, it's the ultralife ultrazone mini. A coralife luft pump (only air pump I know that has to power to be able to push 2psi + into the ozone reactor) forces air through the ozonizer into a avast marine ozone reactor with ozone media. My last pump quite on my but I'm waiting on a mag drive 5 that feeds the ozone reactor. The ozone enriched water and air is then forced out of the top of the avast marine ozone reactor into a MR1 reactor filled with carbon. The MR1 is hooked up I'm reverse so that the water/air comes in the top stay over the carbon trickles down and is forced back up the center plastic tube (the one that normally input and feeds the reactor) and out of the reactor. Been running it this way for over a year and have yet to have the ozone or its byproducts eat away at anything on both reactors. You'll have significantly less ozone byproduct escape and fill the room the tank is in because everything that comes out of the ozone reactor will be "cleaned" for a lack of better words before it reaches the sorrounding and tank tank water. There will still be some odor but will only be enough to fill the tank stand maybe not the entire room. Not only that the ozone as you know will have significantly more contact time which makes a reactor more effective which in return make it so you have to run it less for the same results.

I have the the reactors in my sump since it's a 125g sump and have plenty of room but the reactors are sealed so you could put a pump in your sump to feed the reactors outside it and just have the returning water feed back into the sump. Do NOT feed the ozone reactor with a manifold off the return pump. Your return will not have enough power to feed both the tank and fight the pressure of 2psi into the reactor. Plus if for some reason the return starts to slow or the carbon starts to get clogged rising pressure in the reactors will force ozonizer air and way back through your manifold and you'll dump pure ozone into the display. So you'll want a dedicated feed pump.

Since I was always fighting changing water levels in the sump when the ozone reactor water feed pump turned off because it left residual water in the reactor. I just had my controller shut off the ozonizer. So the luft pump and water feed pump would just continue to feed the reactor system which in return would make it so I always had carbon running on the tank. With ozone you won't exhaust the carbon as rapidly as just running carbon alone. As the carbon becomes exhausted and starts to become clogged it'll drop the water level in the tank very slowly over a long period of time. So it's easy to catch and know when to change to not effect the salinity of the tank. The water level in the carbon reactor will actually start to rise indicating the carbon needs to be changed. Here's a picture of my set up hope it helps you out. Again mine is down with no pump.

You can see the luft pump under the white ozonizer. It feeds air through the ozonizer into ozone safe tubing with check valves into the ozone reactor. The tubing going into the top of the clear ozone reactor is where the water is fed into the reactor. Where it has a spray nozzle device it mix ozone into the incoming water. Ozone enriched water passes over ozone safe ribbon to increase reaction time and is forced out the top of the reactor through the ball valve (my tweek to the system that isn't needed) into the carbon reactor again with black ozone safe tubing.

Different angle. By time the water and air reaches the carbon reactor there is no more ozone left only is byproducts. Which are wiped cleaned out of the water and air by the carbon. The carbon won't get 100% of everything but anything that's left over will degrade into non harmful "stuff" within milliseconds of mixing into the sump water. Long before it reaches the return pump. Again the carbon reactor is plumbed in reverse to the water and air is trickles and forced down the reactor and up what should be the plastic input tune. This increases contact time for both water and air because it takes a few seconds for the internal pressure of the carbon reactor to rise high enough to force air and water up that plastic tube. Not only did I but avast marine found that the carbon reactor run inline plumbed reverse was much more effective them plumbing it like you normally would a carbon reactor. Exit tube back into the sump is that silicone tube running across the middle of the picture.

Hope this helps if you have any questions please feel free to ask and I'll be more then happy to answer. BTW this is the most effective and by far the safest way to run ozone.

 

[Anthony Wood]

I just reread my post and there are so many grammatical errors and misplaced words I'm not going through the fix them all. Sorry it's 5:06 EST and about to go to bed lol it's not unreadable or unclear I'm just to lazy to fix it. Let me know if you have any questions or confusion.

 

[Cltfish]

I just reread my post and there are so many grammatical errors and misplaced words I'm not going through the fix them all. Sorry it's 5:06 EST and about to go to bed lol it's not unreadable or unclear I'm just to lazy to fix it. Let me know if you have any questions or confusion.

Thanks. It is very clear. My issue is avast stopped making their ozone reactor. I'm struggling to find one that is plumbed a similar way.
Great idea about running the carbon reactor in reverse. I'll definitely do that.
I have the same luft pump and it will be fed off a manifold just for filter equipment - not tied to my return. I should be good there.
Do you get air bubbles coming out after the carbon? I'm wondering where the gas vents (O2/O3). Do you smell any ozone (I can smell the "lightening" smell).

Seems like no one has experience with the ora150. I guess I'm going to sell it - still in the box - never had water in it. It just won't work where I need it to.

Thanks.

Todd.

 

[Cltfish]

Thanks. It is very clear. My issue is avast stopped making their ozone reactor. I'm struggling to find one that is plumbed a similar way.
Great idea about running the carbon reactor in reverse. I'll definitely do that.
I have the same luft pump and it will be fed off a manifold just for filter equipment - not tied to my return. I should be good there.
Do you get air bubbles coming out after the carbon? I'm wondering where the gas vents (O2/O3). Do you smell any ozone (I can smell the "lightening" smell).

Seems like no one has experience with the ora150. I guess I'm going to sell it - still in the box - never had water in it. It just won't work where I need it to.

Thanks.

Todd.

Sorry a few more questions......

So the reactor isnt completely full of water? Is the 2psi enough to to help push the water out? How do you manage the right water level? Air pressure?

I've been searching for a reactor with the plumbing on the top and haven't had much luck. How old is you avast?

Thanks again!