Discussion in 'Marine Depot' started by MarineDepot, Aug 8, 2017.
No more water changes?
New from ATI: ATI Lab, Essentials, Elements, and DP-6 Doser!
Congrats to ATI and Marine Depot!
Is this a rebrand /us based method of the Triton method?
No, the ATI Lab and Essentials is completely different than Triton in terms of the brand, supplements and methodology. It was developed separately and does require different methods to take full advantage of the system.
In a nutshell, both systems are very similar and work around the same concept. ATI does have some benefits over the competition though. ATI tests a total of 43 parameters including Salinity, Alkalinity, and Nitrate which are three critical parameters for my reef keeping game. You will also save a bit of costs up front as the ATI test kit is more affordable with a pre-paid shipping label and no-cost RO/DI water test included.
-Robert @ MD
I really like this one.
What do you mean by "and does require different methods to take full advantage of the system." please?
The main difference I see is in the additives and how your apply them to your tank. At a glance though, they are pretty much taking the same approach to keeping a reef tank.
I understand thanks. And what is the difference between the how you apply them? I'm trying to understand the difference. I've checked Triton can be diluted as well for accuracy and 3a and 3b can be combined together. So it's same:
Number 1 = Magnesium + Traces
Number 2 = Calcium + Traces
Number 3A = Alkalinity + Traces Number 3B = Alkalinity + Traces ( can be together ).
So also three bottles and you dose like 3 bottles ATI.
What I'm missing please in the application process difference ?
Wow, that ATI doser DP-6 looks exactly the same as Jebao DP-4, but with 6 heads.
I was referring to exactly that, the three vs four bottles for the main supplementation. I suppose the only difference past that would be the amounts and calculations for your tank!
-Robert @ MD
Got it thanks again guys, so we can say same thing but better ingredients and probably ratios.
I think that will ultimately be difference, how effective and easy are the Essentials and other supplements to implement. Ingredients and ratios will have some affect here and sharing your experiences with the community will be a great way to ideally fine tune both methods!
I like their scoring method on the test, funny social part. On the website.
I ordered a test yesterday, shipped today.
My question, is there a document that explains their method? Requirements etc.
Check this: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/ati-essentials.316965/page-2#post-3946929
Here's the manual if anyone interested :- http://www.zeoprs.jp/ATI Essencials/ATI-Essentials-v2.3 english.pdf
I am using it in my 90% acropora tank for the last 2 months and pretty happy with results.
Wow, ATI rebranded a Jebao doser.... So how many people will buy it now with the ATI stamp on it that wouldn't have purchased it with the Jebao brand on it? FYI, you can get a Jebao DP-4 and DP-4s to have 8 heads total for an equal or lesser price depending on where you purchase the doser from.
Right now, we have the quick start guide for the ATI Essentials. A full user guide will be ready shortly from ATI.
So first water test is BEFORE dosing or after first month of dosing ?
Wondering how it's better to mix them and store. I can't find any HDPE 3 gallons water containers to mix 10 litters of it. Mixing in small amount is not the way to go as well.
Something like this will work good:
3 bottles by 3g mixed and you dose from small bottles and refill them from these large bottles when needed.
But doesn't looks like they're HDPE ....
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